Trump would have won without the racism.

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by iAWESOME, Mar 16, 2016.

  1. AlphaOmega

    AlphaOmega Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jan 10, 2013
    Messages:
    28,747
    Likes Received:
    4,821
    Trophy Points:
    113
    People accusing Trump of racism please answer.
    Do muslims let non muslims into mecca?

    - - - Updated - - -

    Youre right we should change it to hope and change
     
  2. Johnny-C

    Johnny-C Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 4, 2010
    Messages:
    34,039
    Likes Received:
    429
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Gender:
    Male
    And that is also true as it pertains to MANY other GOP politicians. Racism is a divide and conquer tool the Conservatives have been using... since before slavery ended. :(
     
  3. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Mar 2, 2012
    Messages:
    151,249
    Likes Received:
    63,422
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I see both sides starting to talk more about imports and foreign outsourcing, it's about freaking time
     
  4. Johnny-C

    Johnny-C Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 4, 2010
    Messages:
    34,039
    Likes Received:
    429
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Gender:
    Male
    Humans are the only "race" and what we're typically referring to and where the problems stem from is about culture and ethnicity.

    Be that as it may... some White Americans are absolutely about VILIFYING certain ethnic groups in ANY way they can; it's done with Blacks, Hispanics, Muslims and any group that help them to generate FEAR, ANGER or HATRED. You see, those negative emotions are powerful, despite being the wrong things to evoke in people. As un-American as those things truly are, many indulge in propagating them for POLITICAL purposes. And surely, it is Conservatives who have done that more than Liberals ever have.

    - - - Updated - - -

    If you cannot see what/why... I am fairly certain your views are contributing to the existing problems (the ones Trump has amplified and used for political gain).

    - - - Updated - - -

    Trump is TERRIBLE... and I hope he is exposed in a massive way, at the proper time.
     
  5. tsuke

    tsuke Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 14, 2015
    Messages:
    6,087
    Likes Received:
    227
    Trophy Points:
    63
    stopping illegal immigration helps the people who are the most unemployed.
     
  6. Empress

    Empress Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 22, 2014
    Messages:
    3,142
    Likes Received:
    913
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    Trump said nothing racist. He didn't call Mexicans rapists. He was referring to the levels of criminality among illegal aliens. There's nothing wrong with temporarily barring Muslim immigration until we can better screen them for our safety.

    If that is a reason for Trump to not get elected, then the intelligence and emotional maturity of the American people are at an all-time low.
     
  7. Labouroflove

    Labouroflove Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 29, 2009
    Messages:
    12,838
    Likes Received:
    6,852
    Trophy Points:
    113
    This post is all over the map.

    One cannot settle a criminal charge by offering the victim money, that's a crime.

    You suggest a judgment has been entered, in appeals court no less, that's fait accompli. I would advise the plaintiff to take his judgment and go attach Trump's jet, today without delay!

    Cheers
    Labour
     
  8. Labouroflove

    Labouroflove Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 29, 2009
    Messages:
    12,838
    Likes Received:
    6,852
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Really, this needs to stop. A simple Google search brought up the status of the case. Dismissed in part and the remaining plaintiffs are pulling out of the suit, leaving only three (3) remaining. Notice the words "final pretrial hearing", that hearing is set for May the 6th. The trial portion hasn't yet started.

    Cheers
    Labour


    http://fortune.com/2016/03/13/trump-university-lawsuit/

    She would be the third plaintiff to withdraw.

    One of the principal plaintiffs in the Trump University lawsuit wants to retreat.

    Tarla Makaeff filed the lawsuit in 2010 claiming that Trump University defrauded students and made false promises. Now she says that, after Donald Trump has publicly demeaned her both online and during rallies, she wants to withdraw from the lawsuit. The Wall Street Journal reports that in a court filing Makaeff wrote, “I am very concerned about the toll that the trial would take on my emotional and physical health and well-being.”

    Since the lawsuit was first filed, Makaeff has suffered health problems, the loss of her mother, and financial distress, and she fears that Trump will continue to retaliate against her. He sued her for defamation in 2010 after she filed the lawsuit seeking $1 million. The case was dismissed, but in a 2012 deposition Trump asserted, “We will be suing your law firm for as much as we can possibly do.”

    Makaeff spent a total of $60,000 on Trump University fees and claims that the institution falsely promised students that they would be financially successful. Trump’s lawyers say that the university is not at fault for her failure to find success. They write in a court filing that “she simply did not put in the time, work, and perseverance necessary to achieve success.”

    Makaeff’s request to withdraw is not welcome news for Trump’s lawyers who say she is a key witness in their defense, which relies on them debunking her claims. They say that she “should be required to finish what she started.”

    Two plaintiffs already withdrew last year and, if Makaeff withdraws, there will be three left. The last pretrial hearing is scheduled for May 6.
     
  9. Sundance

    Sundance Banned

    Joined:
    Jan 18, 2016
    Messages:
    6,712
    Likes Received:
    45
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Thanks for taking the time to post the reality of the situation to him, which I should have taken the time to do.

    Much ado about nothing. But, then they have so little. :lol:
     
  10. Lesh

    Lesh Banned

    Joined:
    Nov 21, 2015
    Messages:
    42,206
    Likes Received:
    14,119
    Trophy Points:
    113
    He didn't call Mexicans rapists

    He called illegal aliens from Mexico rapists. Yes he did.
     
  11. Labouroflove

    Labouroflove Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 29, 2009
    Messages:
    12,838
    Likes Received:
    6,852
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Yes, but now I know what drove Trump to suggest loosening the libel laws for public personalities. It's just one baseless smear after another, it's incessant.

    No I don't agree with loosening the libel statute but I do understand the frustration.

    The lies have become so thick and numerous on this forum and in the press that I don't initially believe anything claimed. Lie or intend to deceive me more than once and all credibility is lost.

    On a human level, I didn't know if I could endure 1% of the malicious hate heaped on Trump. I would have folded, heaved a grenade toward the miscreants, and run for the hills long ago. The man has thicker skin, more endurance and tolerance than I.

    Cheers
    Labour
     
  12. bwk

    bwk Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 31, 2012
    Messages:
    23,837
    Likes Received:
    2,223
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Lol! You are citing one law suit. This cannot help or stop anything you say needs stopping.

    Trump has already lost in Appellate court. A summary judgment is pending. The charge is fraud and racketeering. He lied to the students, that his teachers were hand picked. They weren't even teachers, and the school did not have a license to operate. It technically did not exist. Your lame attempt to draw away from the case by citing someone dropped his or her lawsuit, doesn't dismiss anything. The man has already been found guilty by means of the evidence that he was operating an illegal school. Period! Nothing you can say or post changes that. Someone dropping their lawsuit is totally irrelevant. http://www.wdbj7.com/life/money/schneiderman-trump-university-fraud-pretty-straightforward/38338374
     
  13. Labouroflove

    Labouroflove Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 29, 2009
    Messages:
    12,838
    Likes Received:
    6,852
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Link me baby.

    Cheers
    Labour
     
  14. bwk

    bwk Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 31, 2012
    Messages:
    23,837
    Likes Received:
    2,223
    Trophy Points:
    113
     
  15. Zorro

    Zorro Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2015
    Messages:
    77,491
    Likes Received:
    52,064
    Trophy Points:
    113
    What does (G5) represent?
     
  16. bwk

    bwk Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 31, 2012
    Messages:
    23,837
    Likes Received:
    2,223
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I already did baby. You just don't pay attention. http://on.msnbc.com/1ppNJWI
     
  17. Zorro

    Zorro Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2015
    Messages:
    77,491
    Likes Received:
    52,064
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Yeah, Hillary with the faked accent. [video=youtube;Y-H9BOIYhgc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-H9BOIYhgc[/video]
     
  18. bwk

    bwk Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 31, 2012
    Messages:
    23,837
    Likes Received:
    2,223
    Trophy Points:
    113
  19. bwk

    bwk Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 31, 2012
    Messages:
    23,837
    Likes Received:
    2,223
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Lol! You'll have a whole lot more to worry about than Hillary's accent, by the time this guy gets through with Trump; http://on.msnbc.com/1ppNJWI
     
  20. Pred

    Pred Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 18, 2011
    Messages:
    24,429
    Likes Received:
    17,419
    Trophy Points:
    113
    No, if you're going to accuse people of being racists, then finding quotes to prove it, should be very easy. So go ahead.

    For example. Hillary and Obama are racists and bigots for supporting AA and BLM. AA uses race and sex to determine job availability, making some people LESS worthy and others MORE worthy, for simply being in a category. Yup, discrimination all the way. And BLM supports violence against business owners and hurting white people, so they're bigots too.
     
  21. Johnny-C

    Johnny-C Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 4, 2010
    Messages:
    34,039
    Likes Received:
    429
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Gender:
    Male
    No... if you're going to be running for PRESIDENT, then you'd better make damned certain that people do not have any cause to suspect/expect that your care/concern for ALL AMERICANS be dubious.

    Trump has CLEARLY catered to racism, fear and anger. Screw his BS. Let him show/prove he is more worthy of the people's trust than he has exhibited thus far. No... he's not getting any breaks from me or millions of others, just because SOME find him to be acceptable. After all, candidate "Obama" had his ass vetted, to the last detail.
     
  22. APACHERAT

    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 23, 2013
    Messages:
    38,026
    Likes Received:
    16,042
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male


    Democrats cant make the same claim, their party and winning elections is dependent on racism.
     
  23. Lil Mike

    Lil Mike Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2011
    Messages:
    51,797
    Likes Received:
    23,068
    Trophy Points:
    113
    A. I thought you were going to move to Africa? Why are you still here in AmeriKKKa?

    B. Trumps issues, the ones that separate him from the rest of the Republicans, are trade and immigration. If you are not on board with those, then the phoney, "Whah, Racism." is just icing to make you feel morally justified. So until you trade in your American citizenship for Ghanan or whatever, just vote for Hillary. Let's face it, her Black accent is probably way better than one Trump could do anyway.
     
  24. GreenBayMatters

    GreenBayMatters Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Mar 10, 2016
    Messages:
    5,044
    Likes Received:
    3,003
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I feel like Diogenes searching for an honest man.

    Bernie's wife being investigated for loan fraud that cost a church $2M
    Bernie himself accused of using campaign funds for personal benefit
    http://www.politicalforum.com/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=1065977751
    http://vtdigger.org/2015/09/13/jane...s-in-loan-application-for-burlington-college/
     
  25. Pred

    Pred Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 18, 2011
    Messages:
    24,429
    Likes Received:
    17,419
    Trophy Points:
    113
    But its all made up B.S opinion. Someone says he's racist, then other people say YEAH, YEAH. He's racist because he did what and said what? If its was OBVIOUS, it would be a piece of cake to quote the line and show specifically why. But no one can do it.

    I've already show Hillary and Obama are proven racists because they support AA and once were against SSM. Anyone who supports AA is a racist/bigot, but since its politically correct to discriminate against white males, its all cool. Obama also called white cops idiots because he thought they did something to black people. How wrong he was. The two of them also support BLM, which is a proven violent, racist organization, wishing harm to white police and innocent business owners.

    What specifically has Trump said that proves he's racist? Where is the history? And NO, wanting better immigration laws or building a wall does NOT make one racist in any logical way. Stating facts, like illegals are criminals and some are murders, is also NOT racist, because its true.

    Where are all the racist comments? It should be easy to prove, right=) Yeah, and Hillary talking Blackish is pretty bad.

    And I didn't even vote for Trump and will only do it to vote against Hillary. I just hate the partisan hypocritical B.S.
     

Share This Page