Trump's communications with a foreign leader sparked whistleblower complaint

https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/18/politics/acting-dni-maguire-agrees-testify-house-intel/index.html

I think we're all interested to see the contents of the complaint. There's nothing wrong with a promise in of itself, but it could prove very dastardly. I can't wait to see what conservatives have to say about it.

 

Let me see if I have this right:

So, a CNN "source" *ahem* says That Trump spoke to some foreign leader that we don't know of and made a promise that we know nothing about and also has not been independently confirmed.

Y'know, when people say CNN is Fake News, perhaps this might be an example of it? I mean, I'm pretty sure just about EVERY President has spoken to a foreign leader at some point about stuff we don't know about and promised things we'll never know of. This is news how exactly, above and beyond "Dog Bites Man"?

 

Yes but not all of those conversations result in a whistleblower complaint.

 

Stuart: Thank you, thank you, thank you. This report is the dumbest thing I've heard since my wife told me, "You know, the friend of an old neighbour once told me that she thought her cousin knew a guy in Nebraska who didn't come right out and say he was working for the government (but he does wear a suit to work every day) and he said the elevator got stuck on the third floor where the custodian was doing some repairs and he used to live in Washington!"

 

When whistleblowers turn their info over to Wikileaks then you can get excited. Anything passed on to CNN was already rejected by The National Enquirer.

 

You obviously didn't read the article. The whistleblower complained to the inspector general of the intelligence community—not cnn.

 

Fine, but CNN is a go-between political agenda and the average citizen. Black Flag operations are also carried out by way of fake leaks. Remember in the film "Wag the Dog" when a pre-determined white house question was responded to by " ...... but it has nothing to do with the situation in Albania."

 

More fake news as post #2 clearly noted.

 

Oh boy...this is big, gonna bring him down for sure...
Fake news loves their anonymous sources. And the gullible eat it up. Confirmation bias is the anti critical thinking. Like what you hear? Dont question or think about it, just be a true believer.

 

So another anonymous source from CNN....fake news.

 

So .... you complain that my last reply to you was aggressive so I respond, "I promise ..... I won't do it again." And you're from Russia? Nothing like a tidbit of truth to get the flames going.

Making promises to Russians, huh? What did he promise? It's said to be under investigation so can't say just yet but it must have been something!

 

lol Yup ....

Their average audience is down to around half a million, which is like a third of what it used to be. They are literally killing themselves off with the Russia Hoax, as this is like the third lie they will have bet on in the last few weeks alone.

I used to think there weren't any people who actually believed them anymore, but one of my group of 6 'boys' is somehow still a raging Progressive. It sucks because no body likes being around him because he is straight up a mean person.

But it is REALLY wierd, it's like talking to someone with a sickness. They literally, won't answer your questions. Even if you beg them before hand, answer two for every one of yours, heck I even said I would pay him $100 to answer directly and honestly my questions for 30 minutes.

There is something seriously wrong, I know the "brain washing" thing is just a joke, but with how unreasonable they are it kinda makes sense.

 

You are wrong. Trumpers don't want to see the contents of the complaint.

The administration is covering this up - even from Congress - but cover-ups are the new (and accepted, even celebrated) normal for Trumpers.

You are right - there is nothing inherently wrong with making promises to a foreign leader. But the nature of the promise, or the expectation of any quid pro quo could be a problem.

The fact that someone thought it was important enough to file a whistleblower report, and that the IG found the report was urgent and of concern, is unprecedented. Congress needs to know what is going on. Not just let the administration cover it up.

 

CNN?

 

I know you have been conditioned by Trump to believe that anything reported by CNN is "fake", but how often has something reported by CNN later turned out to be demonstrably false?

Not very often.

And what is not in doubt is that a whistleblower filed a report, that report was investigated by the inspector general and found to be "credible and urgent".

The only thing that CNN is adding now is the content of the whistleblower report.

Do you want to bet that what CNN is reporting turns out to be true?

 

This has ZERO to do with CNN, except they picked up on the WaPo original reporting.... I ignore all the wingers jumping on CNN.

So now they can (and certainly will) jump on the WaPo instead of discussing the potential story... Whatever... It's a free country.

If this is not a "big deal", why is somebody preventing the DNI from turning this over to Schiff, as required by law?? They KNOW this is going to make it's way to Congress eventually.

What is really so hard about understanding the word "shall"?? As in, they shall turn these reports over to the applicable Intelligence committees??

As always, the cover ups are WAY more fun than the original acts... This is like watching a well written episode of Frazier... all kinds of goofy twists and turns from the Gang that couldn't shoot straight...

 

Let's put it this way: The Legacy Media has conditioned me to be extremely critical of pretty much any of their reporting regarding Trump - and I still maintain he isn't worthy of the job, but the way the press has beyond doing their own jobs with professionalism and maintaining some kind of standards into going off the deep end at any allegation no matter how flimsy into sensationalism has me thinking far, FAR less of them than of Trump. They've cried wolf so many times I can't believe them anymore.

Right off the top, I'm reminded of the big hoopla regarding his tax returns on MSNBC that turned out to be - nothing. I still think their reporting on his feeding koi fish is the standard on how they handle their jobs, and that one was hilarious.

 

I really figured of all the folks on here, you might be the one who could take this seriously...

Take the CNN angle out of this, since there is no CNN angle..

I personally am not putting a lot of stock in the "promise" angle... it'll be a typical Trump off-the-cuff stupid statement that can be ignored by his base. I doubt it's a game changer.

Why is the White House preventing the report from coming to Congress, as required by law? That is the truly disturbing part. Read up on the law about how these reports have to come to Congress and then confirm you have no concerns over the way this was handled...

EDIT - Here is the law

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(c) Upon receipt of a transmittal from the Inspector General under subsection (b), the head of the establishment shall, within 7 calendar days of such receipt, forward such transmittal to the intelligence committees, together with any comments the head of the establishment considers appropriate.
ENDSNIP

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode05a/usc_sec_05a_01000008---H000-.html

Seems pretty clear to me, much as the "shall" on the tax returns was clear.

 

Sure, take CNN out of it. You're still left with "A President (Trump) spoke to some foreign leader, we don't know who. He made a promise, we don't know what. We confirmed it independently - no wait, we can't."

I'll say it again: You'd be hard-pressed to find ANY president from ANY party that hasn't done this. This isn't a news story - it's maybe 12% of one. An argument can be made for 15. (Avengers joke there)


This is what the Legacy Media has devolved into - innuendo and suggestion. They so want to get Trump that they've forgotten the basic rules of journalism - Who, What, Where, Why, When, Why, and How. And how often has that come back to bite them in the @$$? Often enough. This story is closer to a Blind Item on TMZ but the problem is that CNN is running with it as though they actually HAVE something when as of now they don't. That's pretty concerning.

 

It isn't necessarily the numbers but the content and who is affected that is most important.

Considering that a million innocent men, women and children were tortured, raped and murdered during the invasion of Irak let us begin to answer your question with ..... The LIE about WMD's and the illegal invasion of Irak. And then there is fatansy about Putin electing Trump to President.

 

Now take Trump out of it...

It's still a very disturbing story... Schiff is rightly furious that established US Law is being violated by the Acting DNI at behest of the administration... before it was even reported that it might be Trump himself involved.. I had a thread on this before this promise thing was even mentioned...

It's 100% a news story when Cabinet members * openly break the law...

* Not sure if the DNI is a formal Cabinet member, but the same rules apply here.

 

This sounds like something that's been done already. A false narrative leaked to the press to create fake news.

 

This, I take it, is the result of a corrupt judicial system of both the criminal and corporate genres. We've seen it in the tobacco & sugar scandals as well as the O.J. Simpson case. I think they call it "a speck of doubt" or something like that.

 

Oh I don’t know...like Trump is a Russian spy working for Putin? That kind of false. That kind of lie Or how Hillary was going to win? Or how about their coverage on Trayvon and Zimmerman? What about the smiling Teen KKK members attacking the poor innocent Native American minding his own business? CNN gets it wrong ALL THE TIME

 

Find me a CNN news story saying that Trump is a Russian spy working for Putin.

CNN gets the facts right almost all the time. If you want to say otherwise, show a specific story.