Trump's Executive Order Against Social Media

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  1. chris155au

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    So no more social media then after they all have to cease business without the protection?
     
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    You said that Twitter said: “Trump falsely claimed that California will send mail-in ballots to anyone living in the state, no matter who they are or how they got there" but Google returns no matching result.
     
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    This article shows trump’s original tweets.
    If you haven’t learned it by now, I don’t say anything unless I can back it up.

    https://techcrunch.com/2020/05/26/twitter-trump-labels-fact-checking-tweet/
     
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    Yes - it is a direct quote from trump’s tweet. The link I posted (TechCrunch article) contains screenshots from two of trump’s tweets. The exact quote breaks across two tweets.
     
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    To confirm, you said that TWITTER said it. In this post:
     
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    Sorry I misunderstood. I thought you were looking for trump’s original tweet.
    Here is the correct link.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/i/events/1265330601034256384

    Scroll down to “What you need to know” and look at the second bullet point.
     
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    You acknowledge that the first part of his tweet was in fact an opinion, right?
     
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    It’s talking about the future so you could call it an opinion. But there is historical evidence to show that, where mail-in voting has been used, it is not substantially fraudulent. So a bit of a grey area.

    Regardless, I was responding to someone who said that Twitter was only “fact checking” an opinion. That’s wrong. I showed that they responded to a false assertion by Trump - not merely an opinion.
     
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    Yes - and opinions cannot be fact checked.

    Yes, but some of the sources which Twitter used said that mail-in voting doesn't lead to ANY fraud.

    Yes, Twitter didn't only fact check an opinion, in the same way that they didn't only fact check an assertion. I'm sure you can agree with that.
     
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    By the way, I'm totally confused why states are in control of how voters vote in a FEDERAL election. Isn't it handled by the Federal Election Commission?
     
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    FEC deals primarily with campaign finance. States decide how their residents register to vote and cast votes.
     
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    Interesting. In Australia, the State's handle State elections and the Federal government handles Federal elections.
     
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    Why would there be no more social media? Of course there will be. They just won't have the power to censor people.

    The name might change.
     
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    Yes.
     
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    Well that's not censoring, that's just blocking someone on your account so that they can't see your tweets.
     
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    Yes, but then they will be potentially liable if say a terrorist communicates attack plans.
     
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    I'm not talking about blocking people.
     
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    That's why they should be a platform then the publisher is liable. That's what removing the immunities is all about.
     
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    The terrorists attack plans would be public though and the companies would be expected to take it down.
     
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    Well you used the word "block."
     
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    Well sure they would want to take that down just like you would want to take it down if it was in the street. They would take down anything that's illegal but if they missed it they wouldn't be liable.
     
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    In reference to something else
     
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    Yes, but how would it be determined that they missed it?
     
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    anybody suing them would have to prove that they purposefully left it up there not the other way around.
     

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