Trump's Lack of Decorum

If we wanted a silver tongued orator who talks pretty while destroying America, we'd have cloned Barack.

Donald Trump is doing exactly what he promised voters he would do. Nothing you can say changes that fact.

 

Well, except cheap healthcare for all, infrastructure investment, a better NAFTA deal, negotiating drug prices, lobbying bans, termimits, bans on officials lobbying for foreign governments, and pretty much every popuplist promise he made.

But, he nailed the "demonizing the Mexicans" thing.

 

And the price is ignoring your own ethics and morality. I get it. You have made a conscious choice to not care about anything other than a few campaign promises. I get that he's got a few wins amongst his many defeats, self created crises, ethics violations, the criminality of his close associates, nonsense foreign policy, injurious trade policy, all wrapped up in the lies Trump feeds his faithful while fueling his delusionary "all about him" perspective.

Like I said its a choice one makes based on their personal character, integrity and morality.

 

Depends on where you look. Sometimes hard to see with ones head in the sand... might have to squint.

 

Oh good, a lecture on ethics and morality... just what we need from the party of pervs & crooks.

 

No, the fact that he hasn't done crap to fulfill any of the promises i listed is a fact.

 

Hes only been in office 17 months. 79 months to go. Have patience. grasshopper.

 

Oh look more bumpersticker bullshit. boy didn't see that coming.

 

You might want to take your own advice, when you get the urge to have one of your own victory dances.

 

No he ain't gonna make it nearly that far. Meuller is relentlessly moving closer.

And I loved that list. So many unfilled promises and bullshit. He's swung and missed on so many things and even some of the things he has done its been an administrative and legal clustermuck. Never mind you accept the DEMONSTRATED utter incompetence because... America great, border, erase obama, vermin illegal immigrants and refugees, bad regulations, up the banks, trash allies and friends, lick enemy sphincter.

Like I said excusing trump's disgusting behavior is a statement of the supporters morality and integrity and how their political objectives are deemed more important. I completely understand.

 

I think you mean Trump's LACK of decorum.

But when the author makes allegations that liberals are undermining conservatives by violence, fake news, and other underhanded tactics, I would say that is a PRIME example of an accusation of conspiracy. There is a plethora of others daily on this forum.

This editorial is as much a condemnation of liberals as it is an appraisal of Trump's demeanor.

 

LOL What? fake outrage are too funny. It's not as though y'all righties don't constantly comment on how HRC, Michelle Obama and Waters look. Righties are gonna righty.

 

Since when did Trump brought peace to NK??

 

funny how the right wing likes to lecture all else about civility and decorum while defending their abuses towards others:

http://www.politicalforum.com/index...-shirt-charged-with-felony-hate-crime.537286/


as for pervs, there are none like the Republicans:

https://www.usnews.com/opinion/blog...servatives-use-more-pornography-than-liberals


Melania & Paula Jones are two such examples - of course, we could list hundreds more but you get the point

 

People on the right aren't lecturing about it.

 

Exactly, candidates matter.

 

What has he done beyond big headlines and chaos?

 

I think you nailed it.
It's hard for those in the middle or moderate left to understand why the personality of leadership must be applicable to the conditions at the time, but indeed it must. There are times to be nice, times to be diplomatic, times to be kind, times to be tough, and times when you must be the meanest SOB in the valley. The trick is knowing when to be which- and having the backbone and guts to do what is required.

While Patton frustrated his superiors, the Germans regarded him as the best general of the entire allied forces. They feared him, because he could and did beat them. If he had been a soft-speaking negotiator or man of compromise, they would have destroyed him. Trump is a pit-bull, not afraid of the fight, just like Patton was. He is the right man for this particular point in time- and we are fortunate that we didn't go any further down the road passively than we did.

History, after a time, becomes 20/20 hindsight. History will remember Barrack Obama as the first black president. It will remember Trump as the person who put the nation back on track and saved it from self-destruction.

 

It would seem you didn't understand what you read. Should a leader want and work for peace? Of course, and we all want that.

However- you can only be reasonable and logical when you are dealing with others who are reasonable and logical. Under those circumstances, relationships can be partner in nature, where for one to win, the other also must win. That requires not only a format of partnership- but a mindset supporting partnership.

An adversary believes that in order for them to win- you must lose. Politically the ideal situation or format for this is not a battlefield, but some kind of partner format, where the other party is focused on being fair and seeing that you do win. Then, you claim the partner position, but you play the game as an adversary. This is common at all levels of life- you can see it everyday in a great many marriages, where one side enjoys and always needs to win at the expense of the other, who allows themselves to be manipulated into accepting it, because they want to be a good partner.

In politics, true partnerships are almost non-existent; the relationship invariably is a battle to gain advantage. Not necessarily to destroy- for example, a nation may want to do business with the US and solicit it, but at the same time wants the rules to provide them with constant advantage... so they can get the best of the deal; so they win... and we lose. Yes, we get some score, but they need the score to always bring them out on top. One might call those adversarial friendships. They are your friends so long as you allow them to win.

If you assume that such people are not there to take advantage, you may go along with proposals that give them the unfair advantage they seek and pretend is fair. That is something we have done for decades, and Trump is working to change. Naturally, when you put a stop to a sweet deal they have enjoyed for a long time and demand a fair one- they are going to squeal like stuck hogs and tell us how unfair we are. That is a defensive tactic to protect the advantage. The tariffs for example are an offensive tactic to remove the advantage. It's not war at all- it's negotiation, jockeying for position.

There are times when being a nice guy is the right thing to do- and times when you are a fool if you take that position. You take a poodle to the dog show, but you take a tough and experienced pit bull to a dog fight. If you get those two confused- you lose at both of them.

 

Ouch.. you ask pointy questions.

 

I don't think so.. Trump will be remembered as a liar and low class carny barker.

 

Internationally 20%, that's far to high for me! Two Rule of thumb I live my life by is "The closer the Kin, the deeper in" and "a person will have only a few REAL friends but he will always have many friends that want something!"

 

Liar- no more than any other president, probably less.
Carny barker? Nope. Winner who succeeded where those before him failed or sold out... and kicked butts along the way where it was needed.

You don't like his style, we understand that. However losing with the illusion of class is still losing, and I realize that for many losing is acceptable. Even losing their dignity and illusion of self-respect is acceptable, apparently.

I don't accept losing without a fight. It's not for me, not for the people who pay the bills, the people who stand on their own feet, the people who sacrifice to keep the nation free- even for the losers who choose to be losers at the expense of others, losers willing to be carried rather than stand up.

Trump IS changing the direction of the nation, restoring things the losers never earned and yet are eager to give away.

 

I expect a facile dismissal when you can't actually respond with any substance. I also expect you and yours to ALWAYS Blame the other side for your own weaknesses and hypocrisy. Seems taking personal responsibility doesn't extend to mindless expressions of partisanship, nope its always "their" fault.

What came first? The greatness in one's own mind or fear and loathing of the "others"?

Either way, I understand how how entrenched partisanship works along with its attendant myopia. So many classic examples around here's one of them.

 

In order to appraise Trump's demeanor, trumpettes HAVE to blame liberals or else they'd actually have to examine trump's pathetic character and performance.

No, its all a giant BI PARTISAN conspiracy to bring trump down. Funny how trump repeatedly takes credit stuff he didn't do, while ALWAYS denying responsibility for his screw ups. He blames everyone else and so do his followers.