Trump's Mistake at the Boy Scout Jamboree

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  1. Woody01

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    President Bill Clinton (1997)

    When Clinton spoke to the Scouts in 1997, it was the 60th anniversary of the first jamboree, and Clinton seemed to revel in the occasion.

    With classic Clintonian flair, he name-checked no fewer than a dozen attendees and associates, gave a shout-out to the Arkansas flags flying in the background, recounted his days as a Scout at Ramble Elementary School, then told a more recent story about a scoutmaster from Missouri who tackled a man who had tried to run down pedestrians at a park in Washington (“I don’t know if there’s a Scout merit badge for tackling dangerous people who are violating the law,” he said, “but if there is one, I think he ought to get it.”)

    The bulk of his speech focused on people doing “good turns” for one another — a core practice of the Scouts, he said.

    “If every young person in America would give back to their community in the way you do, just imagine what we could do,” he said. “Imagine how many fewer problems we could have. So many times I have wished that every young person in America had the chance to be a part of Scouting. And tonight I see why, more clearly than ever. So I hope you’ll go home and help others to serve and learn the joy that you share by the service you do.”

    Clinton closed with a quote from French writer Alexis de Tocqueville: “America is great because America is good.”

    Full text of speech below:
    http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/index.php?pid=54477&st=National+Scout+Jamboree&st1

    President Barack Obama (2010)

    Obama didn’t attend the jamboree at Fort A.P. Hill in Virginia in 2010, which marked the 100th anniversary of the Boy Scouts of America. But he did send the Scouts a brief videotaped message praising the organization’s history of community service and legacy of producing national leaders (he noted that 11 of the 12 people who walked on the moon were Scouts).

    “That service is worth celebrating, but there’s still more to do,” Obama said. “In the years ahead we’re going to depend on you, the next generation of leaders, to move America forward.”




    No attacks on political opponents, no advocating transgender rights, are trying to coerce them into saying they are actually girls. No pushing their policies or making attacks on their political opponents.

    The President should not turn the Jambroee into a political rally. Just like the 80 years before Trump speaking at it the Presidents who preceded him did not.
     
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    That is one of the pollsters I'm using.
     
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    Trump is an abomination...an azz-hole of the umpteenth degree. To expect more of him is ludicrous. He is a one trick pony whose only trick is the worn out and jaded one of a snake oil salesman that can only depend on rubes to buy the crap he sells. He also a traitor that does not care if everyone knows how desperately he is trying to cover up his crimes as long as he can get away with it. He needs or be thrown out like sack of rotten trash.
     
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    My friend,

    Obama, being the false Messiah that he was, could not have possibly been simultaneously in all the skruls where mad Liberal teachers trained innocent kids to sing praises to Obama. I know Obama would wanted to, but he could not. :love:
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    A perfect Hillary supporter, thinking just like Hillary that only the Liberals deserve and entitled to representation, and a voice. No wonder, Liberals are going mad.
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And we're enjoying the president of Deplorables. :)
     
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    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...presidential-election/?utm_term=.f5fc131e0b4d


    National polls were actually quite accurate. The one I used for approval is way up there.

    State Polls got it wrong. I am not using State Polls for Approval.
     
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    Just_a_Citizen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'll grant Don's numbers are in the tank. My point is, those numbers don't mean a thing where rubber meets road, & any focus on the numbers, serves only as yet another Glittery Thing.
     
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    Hmmmmm, maybe, depends.
     
  13. Just_a_Citizen

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    Indeed.
     
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    So you've got nothing then?

    We know 33,000 emails were missing, since Clinton and her team said they deleted them.

    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...-trump-says-hillary-clinton-deleted-33000-em/

    Clinton and her campaign don’t dispute that she deleted these 33,000 emails.

    Anything else you got that might be a little harder for me?

    Go ahead and get it off your chest bro.

    Tell us exactly how the Russians affected the election.
     
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    "I go to Washington and I see all these politicians, and I see the swamp. In fact it's not a good place -- we should change it from the swamp to the cesspool or perhaps use the word sewer,"

    "Tonight we put aside all of the policy fights in Washington, D.C. you've been hearing about with the fake news and all of that."

    "I wonder if the television cameras will follow you? They don't doing that when they see these massive crowds. They don't like doing that."

    "And hopefully he's going to gets the votes tomorrow to start our path toward killing this horrible thing known as Obamacare that's really hurting us."

    "By the way, what do you think the chances are that this incredible massive crowd, record setting, is going to be shown on television tonight? One percent or zero?"

    "The fake media will say, "President Trump spoke" -- you know what is -- "President Trump spoke before a small crowd of Boy Scouts today." That's some -- that is some crowd. Fake media. Fake news."

    "Do you remember that famous night on television, November 8th where they said, these dishonest people, where they said, there is no path to victory for Donald Trump."

    Then there are many instances of pushing his agenda and may have missed somethings..

    You may think it is okay, but the BSA should be a nonpartisan organization IMHO. Let the kids there not worry about what politics and have it dividing them until they are 18.
     
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    So he mentioned fake news, said something about the swamp, talked about exporting energy, and talked about how he met William Levitt.

    Oh the horror.
     
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    You do have a point.

    After asking "Who the hell wants to talk politics, when I'm with the BSA?".... He nearly immediately got political.

    Don should have remembered he wasn't @ a whistle-stop....

    Talk about rubbing sticks together..... Or grabbing some Pussywillows or something.
     
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    Just don't forget who is the president, and who is not. Not all the prayers are answered, you know... :hug:
     
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    He is the President of the Boy Scouts of America. He can do whatever he wants. If he tells them snot-nosed little brats to blow up North Korea, they better be working on their thermonuclear weapons badge by sundown or there will be switches.
     
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    I have already done that. Read the thread.

    “WASHINGTON — President Donald Trump's job approval rating in the American counties that fueled his 2016 victory stands at 50 percent, according to a new NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll of these "Trump counties."

    Fifty percent of adults in these counties — consisting of Republicans, Democrats and independents — approve of the president's job performance (including 29 percent who strongly approve), while 46 percent disapprove (including 35 percent who do so strongly).”
    NBC, Trump’s Approval Stands at 50 Percent in the Counties That Fueled His Win,
    by MARK MURRAY, 7/16/2017.
    http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/fir...ds-50-percent-counties-fueled-his-win-n783151

    Of course, that is a biased anti-Trump poll.
     
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    Some left sources are trying to warn the troops about polling bias.

    “But there are some facts and trends that are being missed in the polls.
    First, Trump is likely NOT at 40 percent approval with the American electorate. He is likely higher. Trump got 46.1 percent of the popular vote, several million votes less than Clinton did, but neither candidate got a majority. Six million voters opted for a libertarian candidate and most of those votes would never go to a liberal Democrat. And when all of the congressional votes were tallied, Republicans got 3 million more votes than the Democrats and won a majority of both the popular vote and of the seats in Congress.

    The recent special election in Georgia came out about the same as the Trump/Hillary vote, with Republicans nosing out Democrats. As The Washington Post poll reported, a replay of the Trump/Hillary race would today come out more for Trump than Hillary.” THE HILL, Why the polls are wrong about Trump. Again., BY MARK PENN, OPINION CONTRIBUTOR - 04/28/17.
    http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-bl...038-why-the-polls-are-wrong-about-trump-again

    Damn that alt.right Mark Penn! ;-)
     
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    Yes, insulated political elites and their sycophants tend to be a bit reality challenged. ;-)
     
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    Especially when they are blind to their own projections. ;)
     
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    More accurate at determining the opinion of those 40,000? Sure. More accurate at determining the opinion of the nation? Maybe not.

    But what study are you talking about that used 350 people?

    And what is Trump's approval rating?
     
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    Trump polls at 50% in counties where he previously polled better than 50%?

    Pathetic.
     

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