Only if your wish is a dead wish for Americans! If you have a heart (and a head), you would understand that the best thing that can happen for AMERICANS (not just for the Right!) is to work WITH the Left to IMPROVE the existing bill, instead of coldly and criminally just repeal and replace by destructive crap! At one point, Trump said he might be open to the public option. . .and from there, a more liveable for all bill can be drawn. The ACA was NEVER met to be the end of the work, but the beginning of a more comprehensive and more beneficial plan for ALL Americans. Why not go back to that. . .improve what we have, get rid of what is dead weight, but keep the MANY advantages of this original plan. Obviously, this would not please big business, and it would be a big deception to those who are crazy and selfish enough to believe that, the main point in repealing ACA is to give a slap in the face to Obama and to destroy his legacy!
The government leviathan has more than enough to fund the HSA's. The problem is that substantial direct transfers of capital and power from the state to workers is the last thing any ruling political class wants to do.
neah. This looks like a total failure, just like his Trump steak and Trump university. And this just aint looking good at all.
They had 7 years to come up with a plan. This should have been an easy vote. This is a HUUUUUUUUGE failure
I have always been what our current labelling system might call a reluctant anti-Communist with a strong bias toward libertarian/conservative principles. Anyone who actually reads Marx or Lenin will quickly appreciate that their insights into the true nature of government. Do any Communists still read Marx and Lenin?
Agreed, he is not playing it well, blaming the Democrats instead of the party establishment. He could have had his "clean broom". He is something of a bozo, isn't he?
I think you have got it about right, but IMO, Trump will be hurt by any reform that does not provide far better healthcare to the American people. The Ryan bill looked like a donor crafted boondoggle to me. The Republican establishment and the political class will be set up for another antiestablishment wave election in 2016 unless they give the American people access to far better healthcare. Trump can ride that wave so long as he isn't viewed as part of the corrupt political class. The new anti-establishment super majority may be able to replace scores of establishment Republicans and Democrats in 2018 and start doing some good work for the American people. Internal conflicts within that movement are mostly contrived habitual nonsense.
So you want Obamacare to fail. What will you replace it with? You've had several years to think of a replacement plan
To compare Brexit with the Trump victory, in both cases the winners were stunned by a victory they didn't actually plan on achieving. For the UK, the market crashed, the reigns were quickly passed across to a safe pair of hands with Theresa May, a quiet conservative intellectual, who put the brakes on everything and started planning out the next steps. In the US the market surged, Trump was himself the victory, so stayed in control, and he accelerated everything aggressively, even bombastically.
That seems right to me. Trump would have relished the short term winner bump if this fake reform had passed, but he would have had to wear the failure of the reform around his neck for the rest of his presidency.
I agree. Ryan and the RP establishment will take the big hit for crafting this Fake Reform donor bill.
Trump may have disappointed some of his followers who expected him to be able to compel Ryan/McConnell to work for the people, but most Americans have stopped expecting anything good to come from the corrupt bipartisan political class that still runs Congress. Primary challengers from both parties should get their motors running right now.
I don't think he has to blame them - yet. Ryan, with his reaction, has made sure the RP establishment will take most of the blame. If there are any antiestablishment Democrats hiding in the DP they should come forward with new radical plans to give Americans far better healthcare right now. Hint: Complex fake reform donor bills do not fool many voters anymore. If Democrats came up with a short bill creating ample HSA's for the working class who would oppose it? Ryan/McConnell/Pelosi/Hoyer et al? Perfect for a united antiestablishment movement. Find some new Democrats and run with them.
I agree. They can come up with something better than Obamacare. But are they willing ? To be better than Obamacare they have to make some very tough decisions, but are they willing to make the decisions that now have to be made.
You guys live in your own head so much that it makes you incomprehensible when you actually put down your thoughts. What does anything I wrote have to with being a Christian? That seems a pretty bizarre comment that has nothing to do with...anything.
As a poster, your accuracy level is pretty low, and I'm including the conspiracy section on that. As for this, claiming that the death spiral is a myth makes you sound like Baghdad Bob. The death spiral was a fairly easy actuarial prediction to make that health care analysts have been predicting since Obamacare was just a bill. However if you think Obamacare is doing just fine then there is no urgency for Republicans do do anything with healthcare since it's all going swimmingly. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-is-in-a-death-spiral/?utm_term=.4335044e96c4
You don't think the republicans actually thought of any solutions during their 8 years pity party when Obama was president, do you? Republicans are best suited as the minority, whining and sniveling. They've proven they are incapable of legislating.
That's a totally outrageous and irrational comment on your part. I said we were stuck watching the Obamacare death spiral, not rooting for it. Your poster buddy Andrew Jackson just dismissed the death spiral as a myth, but apparently you are taking it seriously? I thought that violated the lefty catechism. Democrats have already said they are not cooperating, and in fact I didn't hear a one of them pitch in any ideas on fixing health care, since right now the party line seems to be that Obamacare is perfect and Medicare for all is even perfecter, and that's it. Totally devoid or thought or policy otherwise.
Hoping the ACA will fail is a decidedly right wing sentiment. The same right who likes to pretend they are the party of christian/family values would love nothing more to celebrate millions of people getting tossed off their health insurance. Your party has tethered itself to ridiculous religious nonsense. That you fail to see the irony there is your problem, not mine. It doesn't matter at this point, because republicans and this administration have been proven impotent when it comes to actually legislating.
Why would I want to replace it, the left enacted it! We had a alternative, it failed, shame on us! The law is right where it belongs, in the lap of the DNC! I wish them all the luck with it!
Heh, you didn't even try to defend your statement! Let's try again: What does anything I wrote have to with being a Christian? Seriously, I want to know. Deflecting about family values is just that, a deflection. The Moral Majority didn't even make it to the 90's. And your crazy comments are not my problem, they're yours, since they are so ridiculous it gives me ample opportunity to try to force you to clarify them. So try again, it's be fun!
Death spiral watch! Standard and Poor's: The ACA Individual Market: 2016 Will Be Better Than 2015, But Achieving Target Profitability Will Take Longer Health insurers start getting the hang of Obamacare as GOP pushes replacement plan CBO score of the GOP bill:
No it's right wing rhetoric! So say the left! Since the ACA has been law it's been the same back and forth, the Republicans Math and Trending data suggest eminent collapse. The left and their math and Trending data suggest immense success and popularity! So no worries, right? What could possibly go wrong?
