Trump's response to Bounty-gate

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  1. Xyce

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    Yawn.

    All of these have a sense of trying too hard to be funny. Comedy should not be forced.

    Please, do better.
     
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    Dirty Don is much more interested in protecting statues and bases named after dead Confederate soldiers than our living American military out in the field of battle defending us.
     
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    Don't presume to speak for military families, EVER. I have had two family members in Afghanistan, they both support Trump and they both support complete withdrawal from Afghanistan. If you want to deal punishment, you risk your life to deal it out, not other people's lives. I am sick of the war-mongering left and their relentless desire to escalate military conflicts that serve no American interest.
     
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    It was the right that put us in Iraq and Afghanistan, not the left!!!
     
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    This is what he had to say about it.

     
  6. Jiminy

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    Comrade Donnie still can't bring himself to say a word to criticize his bff Comrade Putie. Why?

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    Ah - the trump card - no pun intended.

    Trump addressing the concerns in public is dealing punishment now? Do you think that's what he's doing? Strategically keeping silent to save the lives of the military? If its a hoax, then surely nothing is happening. And if it isn't, a show of might and retribution isn't in order?

    I am not suggesting military conflict. I am suggesting the President should address the issue. THAT serves American interest.
     
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    Yes Bountygate, the Left-wing/MSM hoax admitted so even by the Biden administration now.
     
  9. Bluesguy

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    He did. He said it was false and a media hoax. He was right what say you now?
     
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    Good Ole Joe's administration didn't say that Bountygate was a hoax, but that the CIA intel was inconclusive. Hoaxes were the specialty of the Worst President Ever Donnie, like Comrade Donnie's claim of the Russian hoax or 2020 presidential was rigged:
    There was Trump-Russia collusion — and Trump pardoned the colluder
    https://thehill.com/opinion/white-h...sia-collusion-and-trump-pardoned-the-colluder

    And, of course, you ignored my question:
    Comrade Donnie still can't bring himself to say a word to criticize his bff Comrade Putie. Why?
     
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  11. Bluesguy

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    They said the leaked information has no veracity and could not confirm it after during the campaign it was treate as fact. They were even briefed at the time as was the MSM it was totally unconfirmed roumor yet because Trump, who had been fully on the lack of any substance and was stating it was totally a media hoax, would not take us to the brink of war over attacked him said HE was the liar. They all own him and the country an apology and formal retraction.
     
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    Maybe Trump could start apologizing to Biden for accusing him and the Dems of stealing the election. Clean up your own house first before you accuse others. Of course, hell will freeze over first.
     
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    Dodge and diversion noted again. And it ain't my house. You're OK with the someone in the WH leaking unsubstantiated intelligence rumors to a press that then reports it as fact and even after briefings otherwise that MSM and the Dems repeating the propaganda in order to influence the election even though in increased the tensions between the US and Russia and could have brought about military conflict?
     
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    After Biden and his fellow Dems and MSM treated it and stated it AS FACT even though they had been briefed otherwise. Have they apologized to Trump and the citizens for engaging in such a hoax?
     
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    Serious question because I have not really followed this much. What was a hoax exactly? I was under the impression it was reported that intelligence supported this (low to medium I think).

    Did someone report or claim it was a certainty?
     
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    That is not supporting it, it means there was an unconfirmed rumor and in this case ONE single Afghan detain said they had heard from someone how had heard from someone who had heard. Someone leaked that to the MSM, the NYT I believe and they printed as fact and if course the Biden campaign and Dems, probably in cahoots took that and stated as FACT. And even after being briefed by the WH and by the intelligence agencies they had no proof nor could not confirm the veracity of the alleged statement they refused to retract and even double downed on it. Even after Trump himself stated publically it was an unconfirmed report then they just called him a liar.
     
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    How do you have such detailed intelligence information?

    Why would they apply a low to medium intelligence assesement based on one person sharing 4th hand information?

    They reported what as fact? That it was low or medium intelligence or that it was a certainty that Putin was behind this?

    Who leaked this to the MSM?

    I don't think repeating a news story means you are in cahoots.

    I am not an intelligence expert but I suspect intelligence that could be proven would be considered high (at least) actionable intelligence and I dont recall this being reported as such...unless you can link it.

    Trump stated it was an unconfirmed report? Good thing since it wasn't proven but listed as a low to medium intelligence.
     
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    From the accurate reporting on the matter and officials from the Trump administration who had first hand knowledge and Republicans on the intelligence committees. Low to mid doesn't make it into the PDB. And the rumors have NEVER been confirmed don't you think the Biden administration would be saying so if it had. No they just stated it was unconfirmed not credible.

    That Putin had done and Trump was a traitor for not responding and HOW DARE HE not respond immediately.

    His/her name is Anonymous Source and I sure wish we knew EXACTLY who it was and that they be prosecuted for leaking classified information.


    They were briefed it had no veracity and was unconfirmed but like the Russia collusion hoax they were in cahoots to make sure Trump didn't win. Did you miss the CNN producer who was caught on tape admitting they were using their reporting to try and make sure Trump did not win?

    Unless I can link what?


    He and the administration, they had no proof of any bounties being issued by Putin, there was a rumor from a low level Afghan detainee and it could not be confirmed.
     
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    Trump-Russia Collusion was a hoax. You do know that?
     
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    What accurate reporting? Can I get a link?

    Can you link where Trump administration had first hand knowledge of this 4th hand information?

    Ok. The rumors, aka low to mid intelligemce, was never verified. Who said it was verified?
    This is the ultimate question in my opinion.

    Yeah, I would bet some opinion prices may have said that but I want to know what MSM outlet reported it as fact.


    Me too.


    Yes. We have established it was not confirmed. That is why it was low to mid intelligence.

    I did not miss the CNN producer. What does that have to do with your contention that the MSM reported that 100 percent for sure Putin was behind bounties?

    Russian collusion was not a hoax.

    A link to the MSM story that reported this low to mid intelligence as a certainty that Putin actually did do this.

    Of course that had no proof. That is why it was rated low to mid. You don't rate proven claims low to mid.

    Again, how do you know what justifoed the low to mid intelligence label on this? Do you have access to all of the intelligence on this? If so how?
     
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    Here we go again with more Trump Derangement Syndrome. The requests for more information regarding Russian bounties allegations are not the same as claiming it to be a FACT.
    Pelosi, Schumer call for Trump administration to brief Congress on Russia bounty claim

    https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/29/pel...orted-russian-bounties-against-us-troops.html

    The one who should be apologizing 24/7 is the Worst President Ever Donnie for his corrupt, incompetent, and immoral administration; Sociopathic Narcissist Donnie specialized in hoaxes.
    24 outlandish conspiracy theories Donald Trump has floated over the years

    https://www.businessinsider.com/don...s-about-a-former-bill-clinton-aides-suicide-3
     
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    I guess the fact that Muh Rushan Bountygate has been proven false has no bearing on the discussion, lol.
     
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    They presented it as fact and called it treason and demanded he be voted out of office. Like Russiagate it was media hoax. They were briefed on the lack of veracity and still presented as fact. When Trump went public over the classified report and stated they had no proof of it newsstand called a liar and was protecting Putin. All lies.
    Where are the full retractions and apologies?
     
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    This is a classic case of Trump defenders internalizing a much repeated lie about what the Russia investigation revealed. All this time they've hung their hats on Billy the Bagman's obscenely deceitful mischaracterization of the contents of Mueller's report. Now that a criminal conspiracy has been confirmed they lean heavily on Barr's lie to enable their denial.
    Trump used the pardon to power to reward silence from the two people with info who could have ended his presidency, Stone and Manafort. A power allowing him to cover up the crime of the century.
     
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    BS. There was never any proof just attempts by rogue prosecutors to force people to lie.
     
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