Trump's trips to his own golf courses have cost taxpayers $115 million, nearly 287 years of presiden

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    I am just asking for specifics. As I said, I don't have time to read hundreds of pages.
     
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    You are trying to get him to call you a liar, and incurring an infraction in the process. It's baiting.
     
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    You want me to read all those pages, and explain them to you? So you don't have to read all the pages? And then what? You will accept proof? And of course you would not ever go back to read the papers on your own then?
     
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    That would be a start.
     
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    Sure, as long as you ignore the weekends when Secret Service had to spend the night & bring multiple shifts on duties, rooms & meals.
     
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    I don't think like you think. So I want to be cleared of accusations I lie and provide no proof.
     
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    It has to be the end, not the start.
     
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    It didn't go into Biden's pockets.
     
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    How the hell did you come to that conclusion? Did you read the posts in question? It does not appear so.
     
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    @Robert The onus of proof is on the poster making the claim IMHO. While I can't say there is not proof in those GAO documents I don't have time to shift through them. Point out the parts that back up your assertions.
     
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    Some pretend all of the Obama golf games were at a military base at Washington DC.

    Frankly one of his trips to play Tiger woods set this country back 3.6 million dollars.
     
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    I am tired today of being accused.
     
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    I believe I did that.
     
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    You dropped a desk full of papers and said "the proof is there".
     
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    It's a brutal forum.
     
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    In fact I even summarized the page for all posters. It says 4 golf trips by Trump cost taxpayers $60,000 in green fees, lodging and food. As to the charges of using AF-1 one, Trump hardly had choice did he?

    Some claim Trump profits. But how can he profit off of AF-1? So the salient part is costs at his resort including green fees. Even there, no firm makes 100 percent profit. So only the profit part of the $60,000 should count. That is the true money if any in Trump's pocket.
     
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    It's still profit, no matter the amount.
     
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    I've taken business courses that break down profit. It is HARD to turn a profit, and most businesses go under. I decided long ago I did not want to be a business owner in the sense of running the operation. So I work for a business owner and let him have the headache. The owner is a millionaire many times over, but I wouldn't trade my life for his.
     
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    His security and entourage staying in his hotels paid for by tax payers do not play golf while working yet you quoted a cost referring to green fees! So it looks like that charge of $60000 paid by the tax payers is what Trump charged the tax payers for himself playing golf at his own golf club.
     
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    Are you watching this Bama-Auburn game? WOW. I bet the over(51, already covered) and took 'Bama -3 1/2.
     
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    OK, now me. I started taking college courses in Business management which included in the course laws re employees and such. When I owned my machine shop. I paid for and took the Dunn and Bradstreet course on managing business including accounting.

    When I was a director on the Boards multi million dollar operations and a committee member of Budget and Finance, we had another course to master and pass to do those jobs on Budgets and Finance.

    When I joined the "appointment to only" B/F committee, it was mandatory I took and passed courses even on Zero based accounting. I managed to get several years on B/F where our job was to manage the budget for the million dollar operation. I think at the time it was over 7 million per year. That kind of money gets a bit serious. We managed to reverse the losses of the Board and put it on a sound footing that kept the members from paying higher fees.

    As a business owner, it was imperative I master those subjects.
     
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    Your credentials are impressive.
     
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    Trump is not even managing the property. This was food for Secret Service and rooms. But the Feds set up the rules, and not Trump. Mind you, since we agree on the $60,000 figure provided by GAO and not me, it was the profit that Trump could have earned. So how much of $60,000 do you believe was profit? And are you positive that Trump got the money? i would love to see your proof that he actually got that money. The profit I mean.
     

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