Trump's trips to his own golf courses have cost taxpayers $115 million, nearly 287 years of presiden

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  1. Robert

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    Why? Why didn't you study his financials he presented to the Feds?
     
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    At flying altitude, fuel usage drops hugely. This is the reason why planes fly at that altitude even though the actual distance flown increases,

    But you're missing the point. The biggest cost of a Presidents vacation is not the plane journey, it is the cost of staying at the resort for all the security and entourage,
     
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    Now imagine that Obama flies to Hawaii, rents a house for $2,000 a day, charges the government $3,000 a day and pockets the difference - cause THAT is what Trump is doing on his golf trips.
     
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    So those are public? Tell me how I can see them.
     
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    And the resort that have stayed in 250+ times is a property owned by Trump, that obviously profits from.
     
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    “A trip to Mar-a-Lago costs taxpayers approximately $3.6 million, according to a Government Accountability Office report,” the website IsTrumpAtMarALago.org reports. Why is the cost so high?

    The president travels with several military aircraft, including Air Force One, which transports the president and his entourage. The other aircraft carry motorcade limousines and employees who do security sweeps prior to the president’s arrival. Note: These prices are for aircraft costs alone.

    https://www.cheatsheet.com/money-ca...-at-president-trumps-winter-white-house.html/

    Air Force One contributes heavily to the cost of presidential travel. This is almost unbelievable, but as of 2012, the Congressional Research Service stated that the aircraft costs $180,000 per hour of flight.

    It certainly doesn’t take long to rack up a huge bill at that price. Keep in mind that this figure is from 2012, so it has undoubtedly gone up. If you dare, multiply that price by the number of times Trump visits Mar-a-Lago a year.
     
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    Was not Obama going to Hawaii every chance he got?
     
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    And there it is! Thanks for the post.
     
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    Nothing as long as it does not get in the way of duty or financially benefit him financially, which it does. He — and his supporters — frequently condemned Obama for playing golf at a secured military base less frequently but are fine with trump flying across the country to play at his privately owned courses at a significant additional cost to the tax payers

    GAO under a FOIA demand.

    If he would stop giving them negative points to report on maybe they would stop? I do not know what you are referring to with the “2 scoops, steak well done, chicken with a fork” statement but if he was criticizing for those I disagree as much as I did with the tan suit issue with Obama.

    Because it is false, “Bo flew to Maine in a different plane than the rest of the First Family not because he was part of a special canine-only flight, but because the local airport (Hancock County-Bar Harbor Airport in Trenton, Maine) was too small to accommodate the Boeing 747-200B in which the President usually travels. Therefore, the Obamas flew to Maine in a Gulfstream GIII/G3 jet (which seats six to nineteen passengers), while Bo was loaded onto an earlier flight which carried a contingent of presidential aides and staff members.” For all of the ‘fake news’ accusations the right constantly accuse others of doing, they seem to be the primary culprit.

    A singular trip which I will happily condemn.
    Just about every trump golf outing involves similar measures though. Do you see the difference between person A taking one trip vs person B taking an estimated 600 trips if he is president for 8 years?

    Oh, my gosh indeed.
     
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    Um, no.
     
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    Were you also accounting for Obama’s expensive trips, or you did not mind them at all?
     
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    Um, yes.
     
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    So what do these documents prove? That Trump doesn't personally profit from Trips to Mar-A-Lago? Because if it doesn't prove that, why are you even bring it up?
     
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    Trump has spent 225 days at Mar-a-Lago, on the gov'ts dime, which he also profits from(because he owns the resort). Is that comparable to the days Obama spent in Hawaii? And did Obama personally profit from those trips?
     
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    Did you notice this from her report? Not a single report came from Government accountants.
     
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    Margot did not ask for your trust but instead asked you to loom at the numbers yourself.

    Why are you here if you refuse to even do a little research and simply call others liars because they do are not a red hat?
     
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    I am waiting for any Democrat to present true audited reports declaring the Trump expenses when he flies to golf. So far I see nothing official.

    Prove to you? Probably nothing since frankly I would not believe were he to show you his tax returns you would waste the enormous amount of time to study all of them and supporting documents.
     
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    He didn't take nearly as many as Trump and he didn't bill the Secret Service, pilots etc at market rates in his own resorts. Obama wasn't enriching Obama with every trip.

    Do you comprehend?
     
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    She did not and you are correct. But she flashed numbers our way as were they accurate. I love actual official numbers. She presented nothing like that.

    As to calling others liars, show a post that has me calling others a liar? I put in effort to never call others a liar.
     
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    Trump owns Mar-a-Lago. For every trip he and his entourage stays there, plus secret service, etc. Tax-payers pay for that, and Trump personally profits from it. Do you find nothing wring with that?
     
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    Have you official documents supporting your claims? So far, no Democrat has presented official proof to back up their claims.
     
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    If that is true. When do you intend to support your claims with official documents?
     

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