Trump's VA pick

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by ronv, Apr 23, 2018.

  1. Jestsayin

    Jestsayin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Sounds like George Clooney is running for office. Your kind of guy?
     
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    Jestsayin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So then they are a perfect fit. Elections have consequences and from what I have heard from vets, the VA was up to their fetlocks in incompetence anyway.
     
  3. One Mind

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    If the brits had sorted out Churchhill because he was a mean drunk, the Brits would have chosen poorly. If a guy wants to get drunk on his own time and turns into a meany, who cares? Many of our greatest generals loved to get drunk. Our founders...have you ever seen that list of booze they needed? It was unreal. Clearly many of them got drunker than skunks.

    Congress has taken too long so they could blame it on trump. I read a report or two where the DP were dragging this out for some reason. I don't think we have to guess many times to find out what those reasons are. It reminds me of the meeting Uncle Mitch and other GOPhers had right after obama took office. They swore an oath to making it a number one priority as a party, not to work to fix our problems, but to keep obama to one term. How would they try to do this? lol Yet did they drag their feet to hold up the people obama wanted to place? To make him look bad? Did they? Just asking.

    Sorting the wheat from the chaff is always a good move. For it will generally reveal some truth. Not that the dems are interested in such an arcane thing, but still...ha ha ha
     
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    So........you are OK with Don not trying to make care for veterans better by nominating a competent person to run the agency? That's how elections have consequences? Please tell me you weren't serious.
     
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This is what we Dems mean by Drumpf Denial Syndrome. You have just defended Don for nominating someone accused of drinking on the job.................who was not properly vetted...........and is not qualified to run the VA............who was nominated because Don likes him. Sorta like how Don thought his pilot would be perfect to run the FAA.

    You guys need to take a step back and ask yourselves if you've gone too far.
     
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  6. One Mind

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    Yeah, I have defended trump even if I voted for sanders and stein. But I only do it because your team has gone bonkers in regards to trump and some of it is absurd. Being accused of drinking on the job...well, anyone can make such accusations, without it actually being true. I am accused of working for russia, which is a lie, and so what some accusation might say does not make it true. Perhaps this is rather hard for you to understand.

    Thing is, with the thousands of accusations directed at trump, you guys are so caught up in it, to the point of knee jerking, that it reminds me of the boy who cried wolf. People who are not hillary democrats, will become calloused to it, and think, "oh no, that crowd is at it again" and ignore you guys when and if something very important and significant comes up in regards to trump. These people will simply not believe you. So I am trying to actually help your team out , hoping you will become more credible so others will not see you in the boy who cried wolf paradigm.

    And where was all of this great concern when Teddy Kennedy, a drunk, an alcoholic served so long, even when he left his girl friend to die in that crash into the water as he high tailed it away from the scene of his drunken wreck which killed the woman? Now, do you get it? lol That such things only matter to dems, when it is trump being involved? A little self awareness might go a long way in fixing the hypocrisy. The dems had no problem with Teddy being a drunk, and you guys kept sending him back, time and time again. Double standards? Of course! For this involves trump. Pointing out the hate driven hypocrisy should be done. The losing dems have gone into berserker mode. It is obvious and I will continue to point it out.
     
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    Yes. Hundreds of judges including a Supreme Court pick. For years.
     
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    I guess you missed why Trump had to fire his first pick. Oh well. Third times the charm, they say.
    Evidently drinking at work didn't work that good for this guy.

    You should check into your claim a little. You can't approve those that have not been nominated. And if the President and his staff are not going to do any vetting on their candidates - thanks to Congress for doing it. Even after all that what do we get? A bunch of people that spend like drunken sailors on personal stuff.
    Then again, it would go faster if Trump didn't have to try three times to get one that can stick around for more than a few Mooches. Now to add insult to injury he can't find any one willing to put up with his BS and take a job. Maybe he could offer a free lawyer as a fringe benefit.
     
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    Did Obama fire his pick for the leadership of the VA or simply continue on with a failure?

    Trump wins.
     
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    Kennedy is dead you know?
    But back on topic.
    Read why it is not likely just an accusation.

    A candidate for a Cabinet or other top position fills out various forms, such as a financial disclosure report and a national security questionnaire. The Office of Government Ethics is available to guide a candidate through the paperwork.

    The FBI typically does a background check and submits a report. The Office of Government Ethics, along with an ethics official from the relevant agency, reviews the financial disclosures. If they find conflicts of interest, they may help the candidate mitigate them.

    Because all this takes time, potential nominees for the highest positions usually get priority. In 2004, Congress amended the law governing presidential transitions to encourage a president-elect to put forward candidates for the national security team shortly after the election.
     
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    See if you can find a laundry list like that on Obama's guy.
    It's a tough job, but harder for a guy that's never run a big organization.
     
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    U. S. Grant was a mean drunk.
     
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    He was great when he was the Skidmarks doctor . Then he examined Trump, and oh how things changed . Same man by the way .
     
  16. ronv

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    Didn't he create the need for the VA? :)
     
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    I'm not sure what that was supposed to mean.
     
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    It appears he didn't have to stand in front of a microphone, prostitute himself and lie about President Obama's health like he did for the pervert. And being selected by a moron for an office he was not qualified for brought additional attention to the man's faults and lack of qualifications. It appears he went for the Kool-Aid. Yep, same man by the way!!
     
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    No. That would be General Pierre Gustave Toutant-Beauregard. :)

    "The Hero of Fort Sumpter" - and Shiloh.
     
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    Mighty big accusation . Got any proof ?
     
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    Oh , and obviously the last crew were doing a standup job. Smooth as silk. Lol...Oh you guys ...
     
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    So what? Hillary was a mean "sober" and Sec. Of State.
     
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    Is Hillary going to be the VA Secretary?
    I really don't think she wants the job - but maybe.
     
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    I'm listening to Trump dance around this nomination now.
    "I said Doc, what do you need this job for?"
     
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