Truthers and US government

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  1. LoneStrSt8

    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

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    Oh my God..<facepalm>
     
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    Page D-10 says only 156 steel pieces were inspected. Two news articles linked report that the bulk of the debris was sold to a company.
     
  3. genericBob

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    on the subject of Truthers & the U.S. Government
    Note that it is an already established fact that part
    of the Gov, be it the CIA or DHS, has hired people
    to call in to radio talk shows to promote the OFFICIAL
    party line that is the allegation that suicidal Arabs hijacked
    airliners ...... ( etc .... ) so what is to prevent that same
    line of reasoning in the realm of on-line forums, who works
    for Big Brother here and who is simply an individual expressing
    their opinion? Not that it really matters in the long run, its a
    battle for hearts & minds and even if it takes several generations
    the truth will surface and humanity will find its way.
     
  4. Don Townsend

    Don Townsend New Member Past Donor

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    The Destruction of the World Trade Center:
    Why the Official Account Cannot Be True
    David Ray Griffin


    Jones, Steven E., 2006. "Why Indeed Did the WTC Buildings Collapse?" In Griffin and Scott, eds., 2006.

    Heller, David, 2005. "Taking a Closer Look: Hard Science and the Collapse of the World Trade Center," Garlic and Grass, Issue 6, November 24 (http://www.garlicandgrass.org/issue6/Dave_Heller.cfm).

    Hoffman, Jim, 2003. “The North Tower's Dust Cloud: Analysis of Energy Requirements for the Expansion of the Dust Cloud Following the Collapse of 1 World Trade Center,” Version 3, 9-11 Research.wtc7.net, October 16 (http://911research.wtc7.net/papers/dustvolume/volume.html).

    _____, 2004. “Your Eyes Don’t Lie: Common Sense, Physics, and the World Trade Center Collapses,” 9-11 Research.wtc7.net (http://911research.wtc7.net/talks/radio/youreyesdontlie/index.html).

    _____, 2005. “Building a Better Mirage: NIST's 3-Year $20,000,000 Cover-Up of the Crime of the Century,” 911 Research, August 21 (http://911research.wtc7.net/essays/nist/index.html).

    Hufschmid, Eric, 2002. Painful Questions: An Analysis of the September 11thAttack. Goleta, CA: Endpoint Software.

    Killough-Miller, Joan, 2002. “The ‘Deep Mystery’ of Melted Steel,” WPI Transformations, Spring (http://www.wpi.edu/News/Transformations/2002Spring/steel.html).
    King, Jeff, 2003. “The WTC Collapse: What the Videos Show,” Indymedia Webcast News, November 12 (http://ontario.indymedia.org/display.php3?article_id=7342&group=webcast).
    Lavello, Randy, n.d. “Bombs in the Building,” Prison Planet.com (http://www.prisonplanet.com/analysis_lavello_050503_bombs.html).

    Meyer, Peter, n.d. “Did the Twin Towers Collapse on Demand?”, Section 3 of “The World Trade Center Demolition and the so-Called War on Terrorism,” Serendipity (www.serendipity.li/wtc.html).
    _____, 2005b. “WTC Basement Blast and Injured Burn Victim Blows 'Official 9/11 Story' Sky High,” Arctic Beacon, June 24 (http://www.arcticbeacon.com/articles/article/1518131/28031.htm).
    Griffin, David Ray, 2004. The New Pearl Harbor: Disturbing Questions about 9/11 and the Bush Administration. Northampton, MA: Olive Branch (Interlink).
    Glanz, James. 2001. “Engineers Are Baffled over the Collapse of 7 WTC; Steel Members Have Been Partly Evaporated,” New York Times, November 29.
    Bollyn, Christopher, 2001. “Some Survivors Say ‘Bombs Exploded Inside WTC,’” American Free Press, October 22 (http://www.americanfreepress.net/10_22_01/ Some_Survivors_Say__Bombs_Expl/some_survivors_say__bombs_expl.html).

    Baker, Jeremy, n.d. “PBS Documentary: Silverstein, FDNY Razed WTC 7,” Infowars.com (http://www.infowars.com/print/Sept11/FDNY.htm).
     
  5. AlpinLuke

    AlpinLuke Well-Known Member

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    I note now this post.

    Simply nothing can avoid that government agencies ask to their operators to be active on forums like this or others.

    Anyway, pay attention that in this there is a lot of myth [a kind of urban legend].

    Social networking is an alive activity of agencies and it's an easy way to get in touch with sensitive individuals getting useful data to draw a profile [imagine to become friend on FB of a subject under control, you could know habits, likes, contacts, activities, photos ... in a totally legal way and having a certain level of trust by the subject!].

    On the other hand active participation to forums is quite limited. My experience with wide political forums tells me that there is a certain paranoia about this in common net users. NSA operators should pass their time discussing the most absurd conspiracy theory on thousands of sites [payed by tax payers to do that!]. Let's not joke.

    They probably jump into forums in an aimed way to get in touch with their target profiles, I do doubt they waste their time discussing how WTC7 fell down ...
     
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    Oh yes, of course, WTC7 is trivia, totally off the radar for anybody but the most insane truther types. .... oh my!
     
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    Interesting to note that in the damaged but stable category, there are buildings that are rather far to the south east of the towers and so
    ejected rubble from the towers had to travel a bit to get there. In the case of a gravity driven "collapse" how is that possible to have so much stuff projected out from the towers as they fell?
     
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    I would imagine the force of the collapsing floors. Since the collapse was wildly uncontrolled, debris went in many directions. Very much unlike a controlled demolition, where damage to surrounding buildings doesn't happen.
     
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    May I add, that the major significant feature of controlled demolition is the total demolition of said building and so in that regard, the events of 9/11/2001 conform totally to Controlled Demolition of WTC1,2 & 7.
     
  10. Hannibal

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    Yet: no sound of support cracking demolition explosives, no physical evidence of explosives, major damage to other buildings ... all point to No Controlled Demolition.
     
  11. 9/11 was an inside job

    9/11 was an inside job Well-Known Member

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    so very true.
     
  12. Alucard

    Alucard New Member Past Donor

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    Conspiracy theories about a myriad of events will always exist.
     

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