TSA defends pat-down of 4-year-old at Kan. airport

A splendidly asenine rationale. I guess if we don't want our phone conversations bugged we should not make phone calls? If we don't want our identity stolen we should only transact in cash? If we don't want our kids to be bullied we should not send them to school?

 

Thank you for abandoning common sense and promoting the idea of punishing the innocent for the crimes of the few in the name of what's inappropriately called "fairness."

 

No Americans are allowed to go on holiday overseas, no one is allowed to travel interstate for a work conference, they should just spend three days driving there instead. Yeah, right.

 

Should search people's cars as well, seeing they probably don't have a right to drive down the road, either. Should rifle through peoples handbags before they leave a store too, they might have a bomb stashed somewhere.

 

Random is as fair as it gets. I like your wording though... "punishing the innocent for the crimes of a few". Yet, we have a majority of innocent muslims that many would gladly subject to additional scrutiny because of the crimes of a few.

 

and replace airline security with what? Private security supplied by who? Airlines? lol... and we thought baggage fees were too much.

 

I agree with you my point is you have to deal in reality and the reality is that you are not forced to fly.

If you don't like it then drive. People need to stop being such a bunch of cry baby (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*).

 

You have no control over life. The sooner you realize this the better off you will be.

 

If you don't want to get searched then you will find another way.

You have no right to fly.

 

So would you feel the same if you had to get felt up every time you go to your local grocery store because a terrorist decided to suicide bomb Wegman's next? You don't have to buy groceries. You could go to the national parks and forage.

 

Just curious: when one of these free market, let-the-consumers-choose-how-much-secruity-they-want companies has a hijacking and let's terrorists fly a plane into a building, can the victims sue the company out of existence and can the entire Board of Executives be tried and executed for aiding and abetting terrorism?

 

I don't know can the federal government be tried and executed for allowing the same thing. Or do you believe that the federal government will always keep us safe?

There were plenty of folks who believed only a king and queen could properly protect the people. Many in fact were dependent on it.

 

I'm really not getting this. You are correct; we have no specific right to fly laid out in the constitution. We do, however, have other rights that apply to us through our daily lives. Why should airports be rights-free zones? I'm also not sure why people defend the TSA with their silly rules and 0 success rate. They have not stopped a single terrorist plot (likely because there hasn't been one planned for here in America). Their 'top 10 finds' list contains snakes and turtles. Who the hell is going to take down a plane with snakes and turtles? Here's a quote from the economist I posted on a thread that was ignored:

Really sums up the stupidity of what is going on, right along with this thread, the nun searching, the fact that the TSA cannot point to a single incident it's stopped in the last decade, I mean I could keep going. If you're going to give up your rights, you should at least give them up for something reasonable. This is the epitome of the Franklin quote: "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." In the end a motivated terrorist will find a way. They already did with a shoe, underwear, some printer cartridges, and that's not including all the things they've done that don't involve airplanes.

 

People just have lost track of what freedom and liberty really means and the sacrifices needed to gain and then maintain it. People in America have gotten soft and spoiled. They no longer understand what personal responsibility and accountability means. Sure they talk freedom up but run behind the government at the first sign of trouble. As the years go by more and more folks run behind the government. And (*)(*)(*)(*) if they are going to have a weak government to protect them so they slowly give up more and more freedoms to give more power to the government. Until one day the people have no power and we are back at square one with a central power dictating how we live our lives.

One of the things that really upset me when Obama was taking the white house is the amount of kids who supported it. It just showed how far we have moved from personal liberty to big government and the future looks so bleak for the American ideals that made this a great country. But following Ron Paul's campaign has been great because city after city he gets thousands of young adults out to listen and learn about the ideals of liberty. It's truly a great movement that is growing even in the face of media blackouts and propaganda. Personal liberty is a great cause to fight for.

As the poster above keeps repeating, if you don't like pat downs then don't fly. Well that is not the only choice. Perhaps In Your mind but not in others. There is another choice and that is to use our powers while we still have them to get rid of the TSA. They are worthless.

 

That's not how civil suits work, but we can pretend it is if you like.

 

The alternative to penalizing everybody is not limited to penalizing all Muslims. It's not beyond the scope of our abilities to define a terrorist profile that we use to target specific passengers. This profile would not need to automatically include everyone who's middle-eastern, nor would it need to automatically include everyone who's Muslim. But it would exclude four-year-old kids; at least until we had reason to believe terrorists were strapping weapons to four-year-olds.

 

The sooner you - and more Americans - understand that our government is granted its powers from the People, and not the other way around, the better off we will all be.

 

When it's all said and done it's only one airplane and one building. It's hardly worth turning the country into a police state.

 

You have no right to search anyone, nor does the government.

 

You have no control over any of it. The best people seem to be able to do is whine about it on internet forums.

I'm an anarchist by the way so I don't believe in any of it but I am helping you out by explaining reality to you. You have no right to fly. Don't want a pat down don't fly. That is reality. Sorry you don't like it.

 

Don't like it don't fly. Complaining about it isn't changing anything.

 

There's that indomitable anarchist spirit...

 

The TSA lied and said that the pervert agent saw a gun. She could have had the little girl pat herself down instead of groping her like a sex-starved pedophile. Obama needs to fire Napolitano is she doesn't get control of those perverts.

 

Kind of like how you're whining on an Internet forum, or is it different when you do it?

How about you just address the thread topic with something more substantive than "tough luck"...

 

Don't like the complaints, don't come to this internet forum and complain about it.