Tuesday hit a record high of 119 degrees

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  1. Bowerbird

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    Weather is the day to day record for climate
     
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    "Stormbruiser"???
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    Actually, Phoenix is nearly always warmer than Tucson. Note the correct spellings as well.
     
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    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What? Are you saying the scientists who settle things lied?,
     
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    Sharing a post.

    "I did all the research and wrote a paper on Global Warming in 2007 after viewing "An Inconvenient Truth". It's a four page study, replete with extensive data from NASA, NOAA, Antarctic ice core samples and every scrap of input I could find wrt what affects Earth's climate. Here is a synopsis of what I found:

    1. The Earth goes through a 20,000 year cycle of "mini" Ice Ages and a 100,000 year massive "global" Ice Age cycle. We're at the top of the cycle and he...ading toward the "blast freezer" phase of Earth's climate change. The planet warms and cools on an approximate 50-100 year cycle as well. In 1910, the San Francisco Chronicle said the ice caps were melting, then in the 50's, we had a decade of unusually cold weather.
    2. Since 1880, the average ambient surface temperature of the Earth has risen a mere 1.53 degrees Fahrenheit, a remarkably warm and stable climate considering that outer space looms a mere 62 miles above sea level - at negative 270.15 degrees below zero.
    3. The ocean floor is exhibiting more cracks than ever recorded. Fissures are warming the oceans significantly, causing the ice caps to melt.
    4. Sunspot activity in the last seven decades is higher than in the last 8,000 years. Sunspots affect Earth's temperature more than any energy Mankind could ever produce.

    My paper goes into many more climate change factors such as volcanoes, the Jet Stream, the Sargasso Sea, etc. The bottom line is the Sun and Earth will do what they do, and Mankind has no effect on anything. The Paris Climate Accord does nothing except coerce America into transferring billions of dollars to countries that have no plans to reduce their carbon emissions." Brian Schaeffer
     
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    Source??
     
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    It wasn't a scientist who made the claim - unless you alter the definition of scientist to include Twonks like Willie Soon
     
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    I'm not familiar with your "you guys." Are they the folks who do not try to substitute their ideology for empirical science? Anthropogenic climate change does produce extreme weather events as well as an increasing average temperature, of course.
     
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    If your ideological dogma makes it difficult for you to accept empirical science, the consensus of climatologists, and the concerted effort of the global community to take responsibility for the human impact on climate, you should not give up. Keep trying.
     
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    And the pattern of rising temperatures year after year is a reality that is impervious to ideology, no matter how vehemently espoused.
     
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    Well, you have simply demonstrated my point. The number in the last year that was actually important were the number of high minimums. Meaning that on record, globally, the high temp recorded was the lowest ever for the day and location. Also, that the number of low minimums exceeded the number of highest low temps recorded. Thanks....
     
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    This is kind of funny, really. That somehow, a record of a temperature could be debunked, or frankly, that it would need to be debunked. And more unrealistic is that the "debunking" would have any veracity to it at all. How, unless one time travelled back to 1913 would anyone have the ability to measure the temp with today's methods? More, why would you want to, unless it was part of a narrative that must show that previous heat events were less extreme than today's?

    I'd say that is more the case than not. If the faithful have to deny the historic record to be aligned with their dogma, who are the real deniers??
     
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    And you guys say that we're the ones living in fear... LOLOLOL

    Our record high was set in 1998 in my area, on this date, and our record low was set in 2002. But y'all are always telling us none of that matters.

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    Calm down Natty its a DESERT! Here is the record for their neighboring desert so you don't get to worried! Lets just hope the cooling trend continues from the 1913 all time high LOLOL
     
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    If you don't skate around the entire world seven times to overgeneralize and over-analyze and cherry pick everything involved from bugs to the final frontier, and you do something as simple as googling the record temps in your region or your zip code, then you'll understand that the Earth isn't warming up to a level that threatens life. My area has seen record highs and record lows between the 90's and 2010's, and more of the record lows have occurred after the record highs. Climate change is nothing more than partisan politics.
     
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    Are you the manager of the GOP think tank, or a citizen that was failed by the education system?
     
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    I found his post off topic and baiting ;)
     
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    Ah, the "substance failed me (you in this case)" and now you resort to the name calling approach has been enjoined....:roflol:

    Sometimes, you should just admit that you don't understand the discussion, and bow out gracefully before you leave these little trinkets of durable ad hominem....
     
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    nope it stands.
     
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    OK, so you confess to being the manager of the GOP Think Tank.
     
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    It's designed to handle it. What are you doing to combat climate change?
     
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    Weather isn't climate. Learn.
     

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