Two oil tankers struck in suspected attacks in Gulf of Oman

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  1. Reasonablerob

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    Have to say, news to me, never aware of that.

    The US did not want constant warfare in the Middle East, as your quoted article states they did not want Iran to become a Soviet puppet state. The eventual stalemate achieved was actually a triumph of US foreign policy.
     
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    Sorry ... but youi really think that the US did well in Iraq? Do you really believe that Iraq's pil wealth goes now to the people? ROFL!

    And btw ... what makes Israel allowed to have WMD's including nuclear weapongs again? becasue they are your friend and the Irag and Iran not? If so ... then it is bullshit als reason.
    And ... before you blame Iraq about depressing womens, please change first the much more worse sitiation at your allies about, before you take care at aour opoonents!

    And no ... it is proven that CIA miss-used the embassy for a counter coup.
     
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    Come on ... it was all about the oil and the fact that Anglo-American Oil company acted like a colonial supervisor in Iran + giving only a donation of the profit to Iran for using their Oil fields.
    All tjhis communist bullshit blabbering is simply CIA and MI6 propaganda blabbering ... and in meantime both, CIA and MI6 confiremdn this!


    And so Ben Franklin too...

    YES; REALLY!!!
    In Ukraine he has direct interest and all rights to interfere there ... and if you deny, then stay out of the countries in Central- and South America please ... And after all this dirty tricks of the Baltics to depress the huge Russian part of their population he has the right to say something about. And when these countries allow former Baltic SS members to parade on their streets and say they were heroic freedom fighters, then I can only puke!
    We are talkimng about S members who were guards of the concentration camps and guilty for massice crimes ... also against US soldiers!

    After you = the USA has still placed without any reaosn and threat an Ati Missile system against Russia in Poland?

    Come on ... the bad guys are here sitting in Wahsington this time, not in the Kremlin, because it was the uS who sarted to act hostile against Russia where Russia at this time did nothing bad at all!
     
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    No, I think it was a long and arduous campaign but now seems to be bearing fruit. Iraq is one of the most corrupt countries in the world but the people are now better off than they were under Saddam.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Investment_in_post-invasion_Iraq

    Israel is a democracy and our friend, surrounded by enemies. Iraq was a brutal dictatorship which invaded its' neighbours and Iran is a theocratic tyranny which shouts 'Death to America' all day long. Yes, it would be great if Kuwait/Saudi etc expanded women's rights and they very slowly are under our influence but we don't want another Iranian revolution situation.

    No, there were 3 CIA operative in the whole embassy and no one has ever produced proof they planned a counter coup, Tehran Mary!
     
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    1. Yes of course it was about oil, a strategic resource not to mention Iran bordering the USSR and controlling the Straits of Hormuz.
    2. Which Franklin quote do you refer to?
    3. Yes, there's an ugly rise in Nationalism in the Baltics etc but then so is the case in Russia
    4. The US placed their missile interceptor in Poland to fend off Iran, it would have negligible effect against the Russian arsenal, Putin is just making a straw man out of it.
    5. Really? The US, the greatest democracy in the world and earnestly liberal against Putin's increasingly totalitarian dictatorship? Stop trying to find scapegoats, blame those actually responsible.
     
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    You know that these videos are often faked by the US? During 1991 and 2003 were numerous shown which were of previous training exercise. And ... Russians have no missiles or bombs which are TV guided... they use laser guided.

    But again ... if the US hits a vivilian target by error, then it is in the uS shugged off as "bad luck" and "**** happens"... but woe if the Russians hit, then it is directly mostlikely intended to hit a civilian target.

    You know that these are insurgents in Donbass and not hte Russian Army ... even some idiots become not tire to tell that the Russian Army fights there, but this is Bullcrap!
    And btw ... you know that the Ukrainian Forces use the same inaccurate Katyushas? But here no word about...

    {QUOTE]It is frequently reported how civilians die from US drone attacks, I believe there is actually a lawsuit making its way through federal courts, brought by the wife of a cabbie killed when a drone struck his taxi while he was driving some jihadist leader. The story goes the jihadist got the cab at (I think it was) the Turkish border, military intelligence knew the jihadist's location and identified him as he boarded the taxi, the vehicle was tracked for dozens of miles from a high altitude and at some point hit with a rocket -but the cabbie was innocent![/QUOTE]

    Show me any US pilot being put on court for bombing a civilian target ... There is not single case where an US pilot goes to jail for it!
     
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    So the faith of Iraqi people is at best of minor interest ... means "Iraqi Freedom" was a myth?

    “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” .

    Fits very well to yiour NSA, eh?

    So Putin has no right to play thae advocat and remindering the BAltic to behave no this bad way to the Russian part of their population?

    Against Iran? You really believe this crap?
    There is only 1 big problem dude ... the Iran didn't have missiles with such a range ... and still does not have such missiles today.

    Sooooo .... against whom was this Anti Missle defense in reality please?


    The US still explains its direct area of influence is the Caribbean and Central America ... with the clear message that mimenad other like China or Russia may be active, etc.!
    Funny ... why does not this right also be confessed to the Russians as far as the former Soviet republics are concerned?
    The fact is that not only did the US quickly make all former Warsaw Pact members in Eastern Europe NATO members ... but it also intervened directly in Georgia and supported the regime there.
    Question: What did Russia do evil until the outbreak of civil war in Ukraine? The answer is .... NOTHING!
    On the other hand, the US, the EU and NATO have constantly treated Russia like a filth and constantly provoked it!
     
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    And this apparent freedom has cost the lives of half a million Iraqis, and much more health through injury etc. ...
    Real great balance ... for American inability and incompetence!

    No, Israel is a rogue state with a wild card of the USA to do what they want!
    Then tell me why Israel is planning its atomic and does not need to have its nuclear weapons inventory checked by the IAEA ... but Iran has to do that?
    So no equal right for all ... but who has the nose deep enough in the US butt, who has his wild card from the US?
    And no ... that's NOT anti-Semitic! It is against the state of Israel, not against Jews!
    And yes ... the demonstrations against the US are known ... but have you ever thought that you provoked it yourself with your actions?


    Stansfield Turner told something else ... 15 agents who lead a big network of Iranian spies.
     
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    1. We're talking about Iran, try to keep up.
    2. No essential liberty harmed
    3. Fits with my National Security Agency?
    4. Putin has no right to crush them under his thumb.
    5. Of course against Iran, for the day they do develop those long range missiles. What possible use could a few interceptor missiles be against the massive Russian nuclear arsenal including subs and air launched missiles. Did you never think of this for yourself?
    6. Putin has meddled in the affairs of numerous ex-Soviet republics who desperately need NATO's protection.
     
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    1. Not half a million and fewer than they would have lost under Saddam
    2. Israel is a free and democratic society surrounded by enemies, if anyone needed nukes?
    3. Do please give me the ref?
     

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