U.S. Birthrate Drops 4th Year in a Row, Possibly Echoing the Great Recession

u want your grand children living in a 5th World ???

 

Your assuming, contrary to all the evidence that this will occur. Why? Barring major global upheaval due to war or climate change (man made or not) the stats show that global poverty and population growth are in steady decline. This means the flow of economic refugees will also decline.

Europe, South America proper most of Asia are no longer potential sources of poor, huddled masses for the US because by and large their 'poor huddled masses' either no longer exist in any significant number or they are boosting them selves up the wealth tree at home. The only remaining source now of refugees in significant numbers is Central America and to an extent Mexico both of which are plagued BTW by narcotic related problems the US itself has created - who buys the drugs all? But even in this region population growth is slowing and will continue to do so if their economies can get going.

The only real drivers of excess population growth currently are Africa and parts of the Middle East. By 2100?

 

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These are peasants and many are bringing drugs and violence all over America

 

Exactly! Bingo! College graduates and the generally intelligent folks are not reproducing. It is not economically beneficial for educated folks to do so.

But the low IQ/undeveloped prefrontal cortex crowd has no qualms and just loves to smash. No surprise baby mama is upset when her boo doesn't wanna raise her baby wit her. Solution= government assistance! Homegirl does this a couple more times and has a nice assortment of children now.

Those 3 children multiplied by 50 million are the future. Adios America!

 

Something else we have to remember: It doesn't really matter so much how much money everyone has in society, it matters how the younger generation is doing, because that is the segment of society that is actually having children.


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financially struggling younger generation

You can't understand the future without specifically focusing in on the statistics for the younger generation.

 

Peasants, so what? Your ancestors and mine were peasants too. The only difference between them and us is time and money. As for drugs and violence? Some will become involved most won't, just like the Irish, Italians and Asians before them. In any event we are talking about what the US and the World will be like in 80 years time in 2100, not now. All the evidence points to things slowly but steadily getting better in terms of living standards and population levels (barring major catastrophes). You want to argue that the World was a better place 80 years ago in 1940? Be my guest.

 

No. Mexicans are not Europeans. Not the same.

 

One can argue the World was better in the 80s and 90s if you minus the technology

 

I'm an engineer. My wife is an attorney. If you look at our group of friends, there are two married couples who have a single child each. There's also my buddy who has no children with is wife, but he does have two from a previous relationship. That's roughly 4 kids to replace 25 adults. The truth is people like us need to be making it a point to preserve the gene pool. We even talk about it, and both of us actually say we want kids, but we see them as an impedance to the other things we want to do. If you're going nowhere in life then kids are going to happen. Any idiot can find another idiot to sleep with them.

 

Globally, muslim countries tend to lower their fertility rate after a long time. The most populated country per square meter is bangladesh, and Egypt could be considered the same if you remove the deserts of that country, and it still have a high birthrate. Egypt is on many points a time bomb right now.

@George Bailey To be fair, there is some very dumb people that go to college aswell. There is a difference between being "educated" and intelligent. There is more and more smart people that don't go to college simply because they understood that going to college isn't a good idea considering the debt you get there, especially for in the end getting a gender study degree.

Not that sure, many couples explode during the quaranteen aswell as they can't stand each other.

 

Who are the ones likely to be having babies out of boredom?
Is it the responsible intelligent and college-educated segment of the population that carefully plan out all their big decisions in life?

I will grant you this could possibly be the cause of a small baby boom, but that boom would likely come mostly from a certain segment of the population, and is not going to bode the best for the genepool.

Factor in the additional fact that many college educated professionals are still able to work from home from their computers during this time, and are probably not as bored as others who cannot go to work.

And then you also have to factor in that there is a big segment of people in society who are single, and the quarantine and public places being shutdown will impede and delay the formation of new relationships. (So sure, you might have a spike in births 9 months from now, but then thereafter the birth rate could be at a slightly lower level than normal, because people were less likely to meet new partners)

One thing I am sure of, I am sure Planned Parenthood will be busy for a while, as all these minimum wage workers who had babies out of boredom during the quarantine but lost their jobs. Might not be such a huge rise in birthrates after all.

 

The ONLY thing better about growing up now compared to the 80s is technology and you could say it’s not a benefit at all. My kids can’t just go out and explore unattended and unsupervised. I’ll be arrested I had video games. Not as “good” as now but at the time it was awesome. I had cable. No DVR or YouTube but I watched what was on, went to the video store. I could disappear with friends all day. Parents didn’t need to worry about what we were doing because we just managed. We kept busy. Good luck with that sort of independence today. It’s just not feasible anymore and it saddens me. The movie Stand by Me couldn’t happen today but that was my life in the late 70s-80s and it was pretty awesome when you think about the freedom.
No one just shot someone for insulting you. You had a fight and that was it. It’s really not a better world today. People could live on less. Mothers could stay home and care for children easier. It’s kind of sad.

 

Something changed a lot starting the mid 2000's with video games.
In the 90's, they tried to make video games so they would be fun and have a good story. They "tried" and many of them were horrific.

However, now video games are directly conceived to cause video games addiction and mess up with your brain, that's likely the case for league of legends and fortnite.
I'm not sure, but maybe it started with Diablo 2. I distrust any game that put random reward because it trigger severe addiction mechanism. I absolutly don't know if for Diablo 2 they did that with the intention to cause addiction or "accidently".

From my point of view, technology with time and mostly the way it is created by it creator became highly dystopian.

 

I had my Nintendo NES
As adult I have my PS3

 

A lot of it has to do with how video games are sold and how profit is made now. A game used to be done when you bought it and it made what it sold. No DLC. Certainly no ducking micro transactions. We have games now not designed around fun. They’re designed using psychology to cause addiction. It’s sickening. Luckily all those sorts of games bore the crap out of me. Now a game is rarely done when you buy it. They’re patching it, fixing it and worst of all, purposely not giving you the whole game. They decide how much they can sell as DLC.
Back in the early 2000s with MMOs it started when they could charge subscriptions. That shifted to micro transactions instead. And then it all went to hell with mobile “gaming” which is barely gaming at all.
I can talk about this all day

 

Your talking about the plot from a old SF novella which if I recall was named 'The Marching Morons' or some such. I think someone even produced an SF comedy movie showing the same idea ie. a future where the poor/idiots outproduce the rich/smart people. Fortunately this is just that - fiction e.g.



This is just one chart from the CDC., I couldn't find any data indicating the rate of teenage pregnancies was on an upswing anywhere in any State. So the US is not going to be overrun by morons any time soon (least ways no more than it has been already).

 

A combination of helicopter parenting syndrome and rose colored memories of times past (I think)? For most kids in Western, high density living urban settings the problem is not being safe outside, its finding somewhere green they can play and then getting there without having to cross multiple busy roads. Traffic is more of a risk that crime. When I grew up I could grab my bike and ride along roads with only light traffic volumes (1 car per family not 2,3 or 4 etc), riding past single dwelling homes and be out in local bush land with friends in 15 minutes. Same area now? - no chance. Any remaining green space is mostly reserved for organized sports.

 

The film was called Idiocracy (2006), and has already been referenced in this thread.

 

I made no mention of teens. I am referring to birth rates among different socioeconomic groups.

 

Same thing applies regardless of the age range or socioeconomic group involved. The trend is down across the board. I can get more charts if you want but whats the point? Excepting a possible post Corona mini baby surge the trend is downwards, both in the US and elsewhere. You think the US has a problem? take a look at Russian demographics.