U.S. Drones Kill More Than 30 in Yemen; School Targeted in One Attack

I've had this discussion before with folks, some didn't like it, others stated they'd rather have drone strikes than military over there. This is just another example of how these drone strikes are only spurring up more hatred towards us and creating more enemies. They're being indoctrinated to believe that the US is the enemy and their livelihoods are being threatened by the drone strikes. Thus, the US government is only creating more enemies, not destroying them.

Even in one instance, a man was holding his daughter when debris hit the back of his daughters head, after a hellfire missile strike the school. His daughter bled out and died in his arms. Now, as a father, one who very much loves his daughter, I can't even imagine the pain a father, who loves his daughter, would feel to watch his 8 year old daughter die in their arms.

I don't care how folks feel about Quran, Muslims, Al Qaeda, or anything of the sort. Any innocent little girl who has to endure that, something has to give. These wars are destroying families and creating more enemies. I, for one, stand on bring all of the troops home, stop all of the drone strikes, and end these unnecessary wars. Send these countries the last little bit of foreign aid, for destroying it, and then be done with it. Save what little face this country has left.

 

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I have drones buzzing my house now. I am sure it is just coincidence. Fixed straight wing aircraft. Blade tipped wings. Size of a regular plane with twice the wingspan. Looks like a glider with a motor... and no cockpit. Doesn't stick around once I go hunting for it with a camera. Don't have any good photos... just the ones on this tablet which I happened to have with me as I emerged from the woods.



Will update when I can get it on a good cam. Just so many trees out here, it ducks out quickly.

 

It's just scary man. To be honest, as grainy as it is, no one can tell if it's even carrying missiles or not. This is the kind of stuff that makes you re-think, 'what the F is this world [country] coming to?' Do we, as a nation, seriously need these ridiculous drones flying around us?

I'd like to think not.

 

What part of Virginia do you live in? If you are anywhere in the eastern part of the state, bear in mind that the CIA operates drones, as well as the Navy, as well as the Air Force, and any of them could be conducting routine training flights.

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What is the practical difference between drones and surveillance helicopters?

 

I live in the middle... on several hundred acres. There is nothing out here... and while I am not big on conspiracy or paranoid types... I would have dismissed it if it were not out there all the time.

I can see it much better than that picture shows. It is very low, and very large. It does not have missiles, and I could not see a way for it to based on its construction. Might be able to put a gun on it... but nothing giant.

My point is only that I do not like them... and I want other people to not like them... even if they aren't buzzing them.

 

I'll ask you the same question I asked the previous poster: what is the practical difference between drones and surveillance helicopters?

For that matter, if these are training flights, what's the problem with that?

 

America is an evil Empire, the bastard child of the military industrial complex and war, war, WAR!

 

The practical difference is cost. It costs a lot of money to suspend a helecopter, so they can only really afford it for things which generate revenue... I mean when they are pretty sure there is a crime. Drones just fly around all day eating almost no fuel... and they are harder to catch than a helicopter.

What if they are not training flights?

I mean... I don't do anything criminal, but it is not fun being treated like one. I do not like drones in the US. Much worse than street cams.

 

You gotta hit them where they hide, and AQ knows that hiding in schools and hospitals is a win win. You live you win, Americans drone strike the school to get you, you win.

I know this board is all about humanity, but the media needs to get out of Afghanistan and let the military do its job. We wouldn't even still be talking about AQ or the Taliban if the military could do what its designed to do.

Read the news and you're so shocked that civilians die! But I've seen first hand 'innocent' people who happened to be strolling by an IED explosion. I've watched 'innocent' people stroll out at night with shovels, plant bombs for us the next day, then walk back into his house with his family. Hell I've watched teenagers plant bombs on the road, literally watched them do it with NOG's.

There are no innocents there. You're either on one side or the other.

 

No difference, they're both equally unnecessary.

 

Wow...just wow dude.

What needs to happen is the military needs to get out of Afghanistan, you've got that wrong. It's not the media whose killing folks, it's the military. If those folks are planting bombs, they're not innocent, now are they?

You paint with a broad stroke, I don't generalize that all of them are evil and they should all be killed. If that was the case, nuclear warfare would be on the table. I'd love to see how folks react if another country would do the things that the US is doing to other countries, would there be no innocents either?

 

You have no expectation of privacy in public, so it's not like a drone flying violates your freedom.

And are you really arguing that you want the police to operate MORE expensive aircraft?

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Tell that to Tsarnaev.

 

Speaking only for myself of course, I'd say yes, I would much rather they fly the expensive helicopter. The cost is a built in protection for the people. It is very difficult to explain misuse of expensive toys, and such things are far better monitored than cheaper gadgets. There are also numerous regulations that govern manned flight, most of it uniform as its enforced at the federal level. Drones are still fairly new and there is no uniform set of regulations that govern their uses nor even define their legitimate purpose domestically...

 

The FAA has been working on those regs for the last couple of years.

 

That brings very little comfort, as they are using them now...

 

And exactly what problems have drones run into?

 

The media portrays them as innocent, that's the problem. You read in the paper '8 killed' but those 8 were probably 5 Taliban, two teenagers who were being trained to plant bombs, and one civilian. That's my point.

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I didn't say all. Many are pro-American. I've been there, the civilian population was friendly 9 times out of 10. They shouldn't be killed. So no, nuclear warfare should not be on the table, although if it was, everyone would probably be better off, including those who live there but that's another story.

 

Survelliance helipcopters have human pilots and are not armed....

 

The issue is Obama or our military "suspects" you are a member of AQ or Afiliated off goes the bombs UNLESS or course you are in Libya and Syria where it is in our national interest to arm you..... You cant have it both ways. You cant kill anyone associated with a group ( or even suspected) and then SUPPORT the same people.

 

If you invade a country for good intentions or not that countries people will see you as an invader. Its really that simple. By being over there we are just recruiting more and more to the Jihadists.

 

Feel good garbage. Islamic terrorists call the tune. They cause the death of their daughters and OUR DAUGHTERS. They understand nothing but strength in battle. Kill them. Kill their children. Salt their fields. Kill their animals. Burn their villages. Steal their oil wealth.

Nothing else can get the message across to stone age savages and the stone age people that support them. Yes, innocents will die. They surely did on 9/11/01 and many times before and after. Spill their blood. Make them suffer.

Obama has emboldened them and allowed them to maintain while alienating our allies. A generation in this war is wasted in his five year reign.

 

Surveillance drones have human pilots and are not armed.

Let me guess, you know (*)(*)(*)(*) all about how drones work, yes?

 

Some nameless person controlling it from god knows where is not the same as a human pilot actually flying it.

You do know the difference right? Or are YOU clueless.

 

How exactly are they different?

A human pilot still flies a drone.