U.S. Gun Death Rate Jumps 17 Percent Since 2008 Supreme Court District of Columbia v. Heller

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  1. Richard The Last

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    Much of it is. Until people from both sides of the gun issue come together, put aside their differences and honestly work on the problem it will continue to be.

    The research should not be about the gun it should be about the cause. The gun is not the cause of violence it is simply the implement.

    A man who decides to kill his family and uses a bat instead of a gun is still a violent man. If you control the guns you may save some lives but you will have failed to address the real problem.
     
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    Of course you do, many of the same names (David Hemenway, Deborah Azrae) that have been debunked and again supported by anti gun funding.
    Anyone can assemble a bibliography to support their point, particularly one that has no links to the underlying analyses.
    One major thing I note, much of the body of anti gun research (so called) was available along with the studies by many of the authors you listed with their earlier works and revied by CDC in their study in gun violence in 2012 and despite being funded by the Obama Admin, the CDC did not find them compelling.
     
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    Not much of it. All of it. You will oppose anything that does not say guns are great as biased.
     
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    But you oppose CDC funding for gun research. In fact you oppose all gun death research. Science bad. LOL
     
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    That is a ‘anyone not agreeing with me is biased post’. It’s called looking in mirror. Give enough rope...
     
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    Yes you are opposed to any gun research that does not agree with you. I support all gun research. The more the better
     
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    I am sure there are many words not in that link. LOL
     
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    I oppose research that is politically biased from the onset, regardless of the side of the issue.
     
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    So all research. What research is not biased?
     
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    And now you twist my words like the VPC twists facts.

    Did you not read my post?
    I said put aside differences and honestly work on the problem. If the problem is guns then that will be decided and looked at. If the problem is violence then that should be looked at.
     
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    Yeah that's gonna happen when the whole world holds hands and sings kumbya.
     
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    None as important with regards to "gun control".
     
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    It is not their job to study the constitution
     
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    As you don't see the real and honest solution to the problem happening, you figure you will just infringe on my rights to kind of curb the problem to your satisfaction. That will then make you happy enough thinking in your own mind that you have at least done something.

    Will that make it easier to live with yourself?
     
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    Then they shouldn't publish anything on gun control.
     
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    Saving lives and you might have to fill out a form? Yeah I think I will be able to sleep at night. LOL
     
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    Are you still repeating this lie?
     
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    You know very well that filling out forms to save a few lives is not going to address the true problem of violence in America. You keep indicating that people here seem so unwilling to simply fill out a form or go through a waiting period yet you are just as unwilling to address the true problem.

    So you don't sleep at night now. How sad. I already sleep very well; with my unlicensed, unregistered gun next to me on the nightstand.
     
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    The CDC is denied funding for the purpose of advocating and promoting firearm-related restrictions. They are free to study the matter to whatever extent they wish, but they are forbidden from advocacy for certain policies.
     
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    A form, and well over one trillion dollars a year just to try and enforce the paperwork requirement, in the vain and desperate hope that it will do some measurable good.
     
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    LOL, your blindness is noted - by everyone in the forum.
     
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    The NRA uses the FBI Uniform Crime Reports, followed up by the CDC injury database (WISQARS). The UCR is the direct source of crime data for the USA.

    The VPC uses massaged data from third parties, often data whose provenance cannot be determined.
     

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