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U.S. judge blocks enforcement of near-total abortion ban in Texas

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  1. ToughTalk

    ToughTalk Well-Known Member

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    Yes I am aware as to what defer means.
     
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    FoxHastings said: ↑
    Just for kicks I'll ask you to show proof that anyone said a fetus wasn't alive.

    I know, I won't see any proof of that whatsoever.....and I haven't....it's been carefully avoided :)


    So , NO one said a fetus isn't alive....as YOU claimed...
     
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  3. ToughTalk

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    yes. you are aware that it's alive. your problem is in comparing it to simple tissue or tumor.
     
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    So , NO one said a fetus isn't alive....as YOU claimed they did ...

    RIGHT ?
     
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    That YOU are UNABLE to provide any FUNDING for ALL of those MILLIONS of UNWANTED children that YOU are IMPOSING on TAXPAYERS says VOLUMES.

    The HARSH REALITY is that there are CONSEQUENCES for your DENIAL of women's reproductive RIGHTS.

    Those CONSEQUENCES are going to be the LARGEST VOTING BLOC in the nation STOMPING on the GOP for DEPRIVING them of their RIGHTS.

    Millennials have already OUTVOTED Boomers in the last TWO elections and will OUTVOTE them in ALL subsequent elections.

    Millennials are NOT going to ACCEPT their RIGHTS being DENIED by old white men.

    So you can REFUSE to ADDRESS the CONSEQUENCES of YOUR beliefs in this forum but you CANNOT stop MILLIONS of WOMEN from VOTING against the GOP because it is the party that is WAGING the WAR on WOMEN.

    Facts matter.
     
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    Abortion is murder, supporting murder is evil.
     
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    No it can be a very necessary medical intervention
     
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    Only if the life of the mother or the fetus is at risk. Otherwise it is an unnecessary evil to remove a situation the mother purposefully created
     
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    This topic hasn't gone away, it's only gotten more heated as we learn more about pregnancy over the years.

    No evil old white men want to control women's rights. We are just holding them accountable for their actions.

    As for funding. Convo is over. I've already explained it. Thanks for playing.

    Cheers!

    :)
     
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    Theist TERMINOLOGY says VOLUMES!

    :roflol:
     
    Derideo_Te, Oct 22, 2021
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    Soooo - who decides if the mother’s life is at “enough risk”
     
    Bowerbird, Oct 22, 2021
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  12. ToughTalk

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    I'm pretty sure the doctor makes that determination
     
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    In YOUR own words?

    "unnecessary evil"

    "No evil old white men want to control women's rights"

    " you say it's not alive"

    "defer funds to cover the cost"

    "They just can't kill the people they create as a result of sex"

    "you are aware that it's alive"

    "I'm going strictly off of science and biology"

    "well it has a high mortality rate of 50 percent so therefore we should be allowed to kill it!"

    "the evil practice of killing a fetus"

    "I can just murder anyone I want because they are inconvenient"

    "Unless you can prove to me that at conception the fetus doesn't have it's own unique DNA mapped out"

    "is already decided at creation"

    "I'm going to focus in on the DNA rubbish of two weeks"

    "because some irresponsible chick deemed them an inconvenience"

    "that "zef" (your term to try and dismiss what it is) will grow into a full grown adult"

    "You should not have the right to create someone and then kill them"

    "I have a problem with people willfully creating a person and then killing it because it's inconvenient"

    "They just can't kill the people they create as a result of sex"

    "there is no moral high ground into willfully creating babies only to kill them"

    "Women are not special in any way that they are allowed or should be allowed the right to create life just murder life"

    "It is it's own unique DNA at creation"

    " supporting immoral behaviour"

    "will opt to murder it because inconvenient"

    There is probably more but the POINT is MADE that you are FACTUALLY INCORRECT on MULTIPLE issues on this topic.
     
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    None of those points are flawed or wrong. lol.

    Killing someone you willfully created. A unique being at the beginning of growth and development, is evil. You purposefully partook in actions that could result in the creation of another human life and now you want out from under the weight and responsibility resulting from the outcome of your chosen action.

    That's evil. And unnecessary.
     
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    Kneejerk DENIALISM given that your fallacious points were EXPOSED and DEBUNKED.

    Sad!

    :roflol:
     
    Derideo_Te, Oct 22, 2021
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    :) Here's one from the list :

    YOU posted : """ you say it's not alive"""

    ...and NO ONE SAID IT WASN'T ALIVE....NO ONE.....and you NEVER proved anyone did ...



    Here's another :

    YOU posted : ""there is no moral high ground into willfully creating babies only to kill them"

    ...and YOU never proved anyone does that
     
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    As YOU learn

    I’ve already done my homework
    Now for some statistics

    https://www.aihw.gov.au/reports/mot...stralia/contents/maternal-deaths-in-australia

    https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/hestat/maternal-mortality-2021/maternal-mortality-2021.htm

    Hmmm bit of a disparity - now let’s break that data down further

    upload_2021-10-22_22-22-50.png

    Holy stinking Snapchat! Look at that mortality rate for non-Hispanic black women - remembering that Australia has a maternal mortality rate of just 6.7.

    The question is why? And bear with me as we bring this back to abortion

    i have already asked who decides if a woman needs an abortion for health reasons and this higher than normal Maternal Mortality rate suggests that in the USA that is not adequately addressed. I am not suggesting that every woman who even faces the slightest risk has a termination but that one out of many many factors driving the abortion rate is lack of access to those services that would also reduce this ridiculously high death rate among women
     
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    That's per 100,000 births. Do you know what the percentage is of dying if only 37 women died for every 100,000 births?!
    upload_2021-10-22_13-31-15.png

    Lol

    upload_2021-10-22_13-30-30.png

    .04 percent.

    HOLY STINKIN SNAPCHAT.
     
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  19. ToughTalk

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    No. They were not. Not one. Lol. Pick any one off your list there and I'll defend it just fine, thanks.
     
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    The SCOTUS has now put this on the calendar for oral arguments on 11/1, but STILL cannot do the right think and stay this ridiculous "law" in the meantime...

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/sotomayo...ely-blocked-texas-abortion-law-172705833.html

    Nobody is going to blink twice if Biden has to do something to control this current SCOTUS... Some SCOTUS's need to be reigned in when they are over-reactionary. This one needs to be reigned in for being non-reactionary...
     
    Egoboy, Oct 22, 2021
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  21. ToughTalk

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    "the scotus doesn't vote the way I want them to vote so they need to be reigned in"
     
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    In certain cases, yes, this clearly being one since they are not even following the historical pattern of the SCOTUS throughout time...
     
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    That sounds very authoritarian.
     
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    Egoboy Well-Known Member Donor

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    LOL... right.... another word misused from your RW Bingo card...
     
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    "characteristic of an absolute ruler or absolute rule; having absolute sovereignty; -- of governments or rulers"

    You don't like the change in rule so you wish to 'reign in' the SCUTUS unless they rule on things the way YOU want them to rule on things.

    You think I'm happy with Biden? I'm not. I hate absolutely all of his disastrous policies. But we are stuck with it. We vote him out in 2024. I'm not going to say "since I don't like Biden's policies we need to reign in the power of the POTUS"

    So yes. Authoritarian works in this instance with what you typed.
     
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