U.S. Navy Destroyer Armed With Tomahawks Arrives Off Syrian Coast, "Harassed" By Russian Warplanes

Wrong again. When the vessel is inside syrian waters its free game.

Take Guam for example. Its an island and US territory. Yet Merkel was quick to say its not europe and north america. Kim can nuke it. It would not touch article 5.

Cohsidering the fact merkel blocked nato again and again in ukraine, so mzch that mac cain called us traitirs...you can be sure we will stay out.

If you believe we jump over the cliff because some arabs gas each othter, then you are wrong.

 

We are both on the same page with that.
The Zumalt class destroyer and not forgetting the Navy's "Little Crappy Ship" (LCS)

Who's designing todays warships ? Not people but computers.

The F-35 was designed by a computer not by real aeronautical engineers on a drafting board.

The F-35 is todays Brewster F-2A Buffalo, both get five


F-35 Lightning ll


F-2A Buffalo

 

I never denied that nuclear war would result in very large quantities of dead and sick. What I said is that the war is winnable and it won’t result in human extinction. The US as a country will continue to exist and I speculate that it will be in shape to fight back.

 

I don’t think the US warship is in Syrian territorial waters.

 

Neither is Guam. If we let Kim nuke Guam you can be assured we would give a **** about your ship. Do you honestly believe we would walk into our extinction because of some rubbish like that?

Some arabs sniff chlorine, you lose a ship and you consider us expendable enough that we join a war because that?

 

And who is America backing?


Hmmm?

Goodie Twoshoes?

Assad is the nicest one of the lot. And by a long way.
Sorry the Cold War didn't end the way you thought it had. ISIS is beat.
Go home.

 

Chemical attack is to flush out an entrenched enemy.

To force them to move into the open.

 

Yep.

 

I think that US was testing chemical weapons in Syria. US use the same tactics as was used by Nazis when they organized a faked attack of Poland on Germany in 1939.

 

Hope nobody will mind the OT, but the Finns did find a use for the "Brewster" (as they called them):

In April 1939, the Finnish government contacted the Roosevelt administration to acquire modern combat aircraft for its air force as quickly as possible. On 17 October 1939, the Finnish Embassy in Washington, DC, received a telegram clearing the purchase of fighter aircraft. Prompt availability and compatibility with 87-octane fuel were the only requirements stipulated by the Finns.(...)The Buffalos sent to Finland were de-navalized; all the naval equipment, such as tailhooks and life-raft containers were removed, resulting in a lighter aircraft.(...)

In Finnish Air Force service, the B-239s were regarded as being easy to fly, a "gentleman's travelling plane." The Buffalo was also popular within the FAF because of its relatively long range and also because of a good maintenance record. This was in part due to the efforts of the Finnish mechanics, who solved a problem that plagued the Wright Cyclone engine by inverting one of the piston rings in each cylinder, which had a positive effect on reliability. The cooler weather of Finland also helped, because the engine was prone to overheating as noted in tropical Pacific use. The Brewster Buffalo earned a reputation in Finnish Air Force service as one of their more successful fighter aircraft, with the Fiat G.50, that scored an unprecedented kill/loss ratio of 33/1.

(...) After evaluation of claims against actual Soviet losses, [Brewster F2A] aircraft BW-364 was found to have been used to achieve 42½ kills in total by all pilots operating it, possibly making it the highest-scoring fighter airframe in the history of air warfare.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brewster_F2A_Buffalo#Finland

 

Some of the pictures of the chemical lab facility captured by SAA in Ghouta last week showed precursor chemicals with Israeli markings on them.

 

Then i must disappoint you.

Germany will stay neutral, if trumpgets to idiotic we might send russia nato data to makean attack impossible. We did that in ukraine as well.

You forgot another thing, treaties are not worth the paper they are written on.

So make your stupid games. Meanwhile we build new pipelines to russia and sell weapons to assad.

 

I love reading your hysterical posts about Germany’s actions in case of war. You really are afraid of those Russkis.
Calm down, calm down. That warship will fire a few dozen tamahawks at Syria and return to its prior position. Russian and Syrian leaders will cry and weep with outrage. Those tamahawks won’t change the course of Syrian war and Russia won’t be at war with the US.

 

Im not hysterical but realistic. Evryone knows that Germany sees NATO as a one side thing. We would never step in, when we are not directly threatened

 

What the fk is wrong with you ?

Fight back with what ? and who are we fighting back against since Russia will be destroyed as well ? and what difference will it make since most of our population will be dead (greater than 90% according to the above) - all of our infrastructure destroyed - including the power grid, communication, industrial capacity, and so on.

As a country we will be on our knees begging other nations to help us

 

The Americans invaded Poland in 1939 to make Germany look bad?

That's the dumbest thing I've seen here in my three years. And I've seen a lot of stupidity.

 

You are wrong!

Article 6:

The whole of Mediterranean Sea is covered by the treaty.

 

The US won’t face all warheads for various strategic reasons.
But whatever, believe in what you want.

 

Well I would hope the Russians would not be that stupid - as they would be destroyed similarly. That is the whole point of MAD.

All you have done is create a straw-man by inferring that I suggested that we would face all warheads - in some lame attempt to deflect from the topic which was your claim that a full out nuclear war was winnable.

 

You are wrong again.

As article says, the med is covered on ships that were stationed in the mediterranean at the day when the treaty went into action.

Beside that you still did not get the reason what NATO is for Germany, right? The majority of Germans sees USA as bigger threat than Russia. The great majority of Germans sees NATO as bad thing.

There is a reason why Germany gives diplomatic support but doesnt even pay what the NATO treaty demands.

Whenever it went againsg Russia, Germany blocked decissions, like we did in Ukraine, when we blocked heavy weapons shipments. If you enter a war with russia all support you might get from Germany would be a pat on the shoulders.

 

In the definition it uses word OR not AND. Read it again!
So, yeah - Russia sinks US ship and Germany is at war.
I don’t care about your claims of what Germans think. You have proven to everyone here to have a very twisted worldview, which implies that you hangout in crowds with questionable abilities to think.

 

Wrong, in that case i stand for the majority

http://www.fr.de/politik/transatlan...utsche-gehen-auf-distanz-zu-den-usa-a-1457646

Majority of Germans stand against USA, majority sees USA even as bigger threat than North Korea

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-co...ter-foreign-policy-challenge-than-north-korea

That said, its clear what would happen. Germany would not join such a war.

You can twist it as you want. And reality shows this, so much that your McCain cries about it.

In one aspect i agree with you though. I think we should leave NATO. Stay in it as long evrything is fine but blocking it when it escalates is not good behavior.

For a German your worldview is absolute crazy and mad.

 

LOL....at fools who would egg on an act of war than cry about it if there will be retaliations. Syria is not a threat to us. Striking them will be an act of war. Perhaps instead of going to sleep, you should ship your @$$ there to get a "close up" of all the "actions." Or are you one of those Chicken Hawk???

 

You are the one with a twisted world view and egging on war to prove your false bravado. Our time of involvement in the ME is long overdue to be done. Syria is in a civil war and we do not need to involved ourselves. Look how well Vietnam turned out....or Korea....or Iraq. You want war so bad, perhaps you should pick up a weapon tonight and ship your silly @$$ to Syria to join the fight.

 

On the contrary, Syria is doing the entire west a favour by doing what the entire western world itself should be doing, instead of chest-thumping and sabre-rattling at effing Russia?? Jesus christ this is so depressing!