U.S. Preparing For Military Action In Syria, Top U.S. General Says

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  1. Libertarian ForOur Future

    Libertarian ForOur Future New Member Past Donor

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    So it seems that the US is planning on intervening into Syria. What's funny is that there is so much deception over that whole issue, that there is literally too little folks know about the issue.

    First, I'm sure a lot of people are aware that there have been reports that the Free Syrian Army (FSA) has ties with Al Qaeda. What's not being told is that this faction is known as Al Nusra Front. This faction isn't looking for democracy and has even stated as much:

    It's also known that they're looking to cleanse the Middle East of anything that isn't their interpetation of Islam. Ben Swann did a nice report on it, that I also watched:

    [video=youtube;ZLTkMYg4zbI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLTkMYg4zbI[/video]

    Now, Rep. Thomas Massie (R-KY) is pushing for a bill that will stop the US from funding Syria & Egypt, without Congressional approval. This bill is also being sponsored by Kurt Schrader (D-OR), Justin Amash (R-MI), & Ted Yoho (R-FL) to block any aid moving forward. This will make all involved parties bring this issue to a debate and allow the Reps to have an up-down vote on it.

    Here is some information on it:

    I've been following this issue for a while, something told me that more was to come from it. What's even more disturbing, in regards to Egypt, I've been reading reports of how folks were throwing tomatoes, shoes, & bottles at Hillary Clinton when she was in Egypt last year. They also were chanting 'Monica' at her. Reading deeper into it, it seems as though the Egyptians believe the US had something to do with Morsi being elected and believed that's why he was corrupt.

    The writing is on the wall now, as even the Bolivian President and it's citizens don't buy into what the US is selling. I'll be the first to say I don't plan on moving to another country, but I do believe it's high that the US is shown in a different light than what it's continue to be shown as.

    Something's fishy over the Syria & Egypt thing, let alone the Middle East as a whole (Let's not even get started into Iraq). I wanted to bring this up, as I thought it was important for folks to know.
     
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    trucker Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    so is that why Russia is showing off in Siberia last week?
    [video=youtube;r-fRjGFlaEo]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-fRjGFlaEo[/video]
    [video=youtube;_zpRbWPzpMM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zpRbWPzpMM[/video]​
     
  3. Libertarian ForOur Future

    Libertarian ForOur Future New Member Past Donor

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    I read up Russia doing military activities. Now there's video proof of it, fantastic.

    Folks need to wake up, S is about to hit the fan, big time.
     
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    trucker Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    and our fearless leader sits by race bating today with that speech he gave turning us against each other..
    while are enemies sit back and plan our demise.
    [video=youtube;4yyRLjvEphI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yyRLjvEphI[/video]​
     
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    Ethereal Well-Known Member

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    Unbelievable. These neo-cons have no shame. They will keep pushing the US into foreign entanglements so their defense contractor cronies can cash in; John McCain should be investigated for aiding and abetting AQ in Syria; SAY NO TO PERPETUAL WAR!!!
     
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    Libertarian ForOur Future New Member Past Donor

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    Of course. What's even better is this quote by Obama:

    Peace & security is only a concern in this country. If total chaos is happening in other countries, so what?
     
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    Libertarian ForOur Future New Member Past Donor

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    But the US can't do that, the US is pushing diplomacy around the world. It's got to keep fighting the good fight. McCain & Graham know that best, that's why McCain was even seen with an Al Qaeda member.

    Nothing says 'I'm on your side' like taking a picture with them.

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    Nooooooooo..... Sarah Palin got it right.

    "Let Allah sort it out."

    There is no reason for us to remain in the Middle East with our new massive natural gas and oil reserves that dwarf those of the Middle East. We can be self sufficient. This is stupidity.
     
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    When ever anybody gets into a shooting war, there is the danger it will spread. Best to go on full alert and war-game a couple different scenarios.
     
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    Obama has to put boots on the ground if the regime is to topple. Someone has to secure his caches of chemical and biological weapons. Al-Qaeda is at the door... using US, NATO, and Libyan weapons.

    Understand that by arming our sworn enemy, we HAVE to go in with boots on the ground... to secure caches of the cruelest weapons known to man. Do not disillusion yourself.
     
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    Arming one group is more then "war-games".....
     
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    As far as I know, the rebels are being supplied with American arms from Saudi Arabia and Turkey. The only way to really get an idea of what's going on is to read as many foreign newspapers as possible and to try to pull out the facts, while throwing away the spin. Right now the Kurds, who I believe we support, are fighting the extremists such as Al Nusra near the Turkish border. Turkey has been allowing the extremists to enter Syria in order to fight them, since it doesn't want the Syrian Kurds establishing themselves next to the areas in Turkey with large Kurd populations. Some Turkish military officers have also been caught in Syria, and the fighting between the two countries is escalating on the border. Also the agreement Turkey has made with the PKK is starting to unravel. All this of course has an effect on the transit of the oil from Iraq.

    Add to this the problems Israel has with Hezbollah. Their planes have been bombing Latakia, and it's assumed they are leaving from Turkey, even though Erdogan denies it. If they are not really leaving from Turkey, it's a great bit of propaganda that will have dire effects for Turkey throughout the Arab world. Anyway these are the things I know. I can only imagine how much is going on that I and others do not know. Syria and the Middle East is a very complicated situation.:confuse:
     
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    I believe we should ask for a UN Marshal to restore order in that region on a not for profit basis.
     
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    Don't forget the Libyan stockades of weapons which have flooded radical Islamic groups across the ME and North Africa.
     
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    I think we as American's should stand by our Governments foreign policy, and not question the minor details of the plan. The rebels are our friends, the Muslims in power presently at Syria serve against our economic interests concerning oil.

    We need a new regime that is favorable to America, and if we must invade Syria and arm their rebels then that is the proper course of action.
     
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    It's all over oil. China's industries are growing, so are those of the Philipines, S. Korea, Taiwan and Japan, and they are all dependent on the Middle East. The demarcation lines haven't been drawn in the South China Seas, and it seems there's a lot of minerals in them there waters. China wants to negotiate its sea rights in a position of power, but the Phillipines, Taiwan, South Korea and Japan don't like that, this is why they want our bases. You do know they were all ready to kick us out until China began exerting itself?

    Anyway Russia and China realize that with the U.S. there are two type of nations in the world, friends, who take their orders from us, and foes who feel they are too powerful to do so. Russia has re-established a permanent fleet in the Eastern Mediterrean, where again the problem is gas and oil. Also it's major concern about Syria is their pipelines which run through that part of the world. Russia wants to be certain the Caucasus Sunnis in their republics and the Arab Sunnis will not unite and become a threat. What is separating them now is the Shias, and they want them to remain.
    :oldman:
     
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    It's all over oil. China's industries are growing, so are those of the Philipines, S. Korea, Taiwan and Japan, and they are all dependent on the Middle East. The demarcation lines haven't been drawn in the South China Seas, and it seems there's a lot of minerals in them there waters. China wants to negotiate its sea rights in a position of power, but the Phillipines, Taiwan, South Korea and Japan don't like that, this is why they want our bases. You do know they were all ready to kick us out until China began exerting itself?

    Anyway Russia and China realize that with the U.S. there are two type of nations in the world, friends, who take their orders from us, and foes who feel they are too powerful to do so. Russia has re-established a permanent fleet in the Eastern Mediterrean, where again the problem is gas and oil. Also it's major concern about Syria is it's pipelines. Russia wants to be certain the Caucasus Sunnis and Arab Sunnis will not unite and become a threat.
     
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    I think there is something wrong with McCain. He was having his picture taken with the same rebels who had just massacred a whole Christian village. Either that, or he is a lobbyist for Saudi Arabia. :crazy:
     
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    I have news for you, our government has no plan. It takes things day by day, if not hour by hour. :roflol:
     
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    Yes, bah sheep, bah. You follow step in step with your 'leader'. Me? I'll continue to question every single politician that's elected. Why? Because most, if not all, of the them are corrupt.

    You want things to change? Start by changing your way of thinking because all you're going to do is lead this country further into the hole. Just like Detroit, right Obama?

    [video=youtube;tTJP1APPxJk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTJP1APPxJk#at=12[/video]
     
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    What's even better, than all of that, is now apparently they're saying Israel has been bombing parts of Syria as well (http://www.businessinsider.com/israel-bombed-syria-2013-1). So what you have here is all of these various countries are beginning to draw their lines.

    Your last assessment is exactly it, it's a very complicated situation that the US simply needs to get it's nose out of their business. Always dealing with some damn issue and it always ends up wrong for the US.
     
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    Oil is definitely the big ticket item for the US. That's the ONLY reason the US went to war in Iraq. Bush didn't want Saddam to control Kuwait and control most of the worlds total oil supply. Thus, by getting him out of power, they can control the supply & demand of it, drive up the prices of the oil, and make the big corporations even wealthier. Mix that in that it costs an arm & a leg to lease out public land to drill in, it's no wonder why only big [corrupt] companies are in the oil business.

    Let's also not forget the reason the US is in Afghanistan as well. Especially when Obama decided to turn the forces away from Iraq and towards Afghan.

    Makes you begin to understand why the US, in particular the Obama administration, is pushing for green energy. Things that make you go hmmmmm...
     
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    If they can afford that, there is no reason why we can't afford social spending for the general welfare.
     
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    There is definitely something wrong with him. He's just got to get involved in every conflict that arises. I just wish he would do it on his OWN time and money.
     

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