U.S., Russia swap prisoners Reed and Yaroshenko amid war tensions

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  1. Thedimon

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    Fentanyl issue can be easily handled if it’s legalized by mandating the dilution, testing, and proper dosage labeling. No junkie wants to die from the drug they use - we, as a society, just need to give them tools to make educated choices when they shop. Don’t forget, one can overdose on alcohol with lethal outcome too.
     
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    I am all in favor of letting the people decide. If the PEOPLE decide to do away with 2A, then let Congress pass it and 3/4 of state legislatures vote FOR it. I think that will never happen .. but its up to the voters, not us. What do you possibly think I support that would result doing away with electricity, cars, houses, etc.? When did I EER support that? Doing a little weed now, are ya?
     
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    I do not think that anyone in their right mind would allow the free flow of killing drugs like fentanyl to proceed unimpeded. The tens of thousands of fentanyl deaths we have seen to date could become millions.
     
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    You are speaking in absolutes now. Alcohol is legal, but there are quality controls in place that make sure the product does not contain methanol and other dangerous impurities. There are also controls in place that ensure proper alcohol content. What makes you think we wouldn’t be able to regulate heroin and fentanyl in similar fashion?
     
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    If you are comparing the lethality of fentanyl per use to alcohol per use... well .. gees... that's so absurd I simply don't no where to go.
     
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    LOL! Right now you are talking like it's no big deal about the 2A, but in the past you have been MORE than adamant about your guns, and have expressed views of the "pry it from my cold dead hands" type, so don't act like it's just some random issue because it makes you look like a hypocrite. I can just imagine your posts if some politician, let alone a Democrat, were to introduce legislation to delete the second amendment.
    My point is, your home was built by people who at least recreationally used drugs or alcohol, some of your doctors, nurses, politicians, bakers, electricians, etc, etc etc. do/did also. Same for your cars, and all the products you own, including the guns you love. If you were really to isolate yourself in a bubble where you didn't deal with anyone who used drugs, it would be a very small bubble.
    I'm beginning to wonder if you were really in the military, because if you were, I wouldn't have to explain this to you.
    The best thing about this country is that we all get to have our own opinions, express them and debate them openly. We even have the right to be snarky about it, but it probably isn't the best way to get ones point across, if that's really a concern of someone.
     
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    What if the drug user can only buy a diluted dose? Did you know that at various stages of production vodka could have a heck of a lot more alcohol in it then 40%? Yet, somehow, those geniuses manage to bring the concentration to the proper level. Why is it possible with vodka and whiskey, but not possible with fentanyl or heroin? You do realize that those drugs could be sold in liquid form, already in syringe ready for injection to minimize end-user processing of the drug to its final form? If fentanyl is sold in such form to anyone 21+, then what’s the problem?
     
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    I have never said the "cold dead hands" thing. Please stop lying. I am a gun enthusiast, not any sort of radical. I like to shoot competitively, especially outdoors in the fresh air and sunshine. Combined with a picnic it can make for a great day. If the 2A goes away someday, well, that's democracy. I just don't see both Houses of Congress passing such action and I SURE don't see 3/4 of the states approving such action, which would be required.

    I don't believe my house was built, wired, or the plumbing was installed by an army of druggies. I just don't buy that.

    And as for my military service, I spent a large portion of it in the PRP. The PRP (Personnel Reliability Program) is in place to ensure the reliability of folks in certain sensitive positions, like deployment of nuclear weapons. I Commanded a nuclear capable heavy artillery battery in Germany in the 1980's. Myself, my Officers, and all my personnel were monitored for psychological problems, financial issues, and may other things, which included regular, unannounced urine testing to detect drug use.

    Yes, Virginia, there are large groups of people that don't use drugs.
     
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    I'm not saying everyone uses drugs, but way more than 80% have at some point.
    And I'm glad that you live the life you want to. And I'm happy to support a Reliability Program, but did you reprimand a soldier who drank alcohol on an off weekend?
    Lots of people in the military use drugs. Without saying too much, I have lived in a city for 43 years you have probably spent a good deal of time in. Trust me, it's true. Not like in the 70's and 80's, though. Just because you don't see it doesn't mean it's not there, and hearing what your role was, they probably didn't want you to be in the loop. Also, different roles, military or not, have different rules. Truck drivers have a lower blood alcohol limit than passenger car drivers.

    I'm not saying that people should be under the influence AT work, because that is definitely something I don't support. All I'm saying is we should rethink our approach to the issue of drug use, along the lines laid out by @Thedimon .

    Given your experience, I would like to hear what your views are on the thread about the artillery being supplied to Ukraine, in the proper thread.
    But for now, I think we've strayed off topic too far for this thread, but I do appreciate your comments.
    Who knows? I may have drank a beer with you a long time ago!
     
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    Don't taze me, bro!
     
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    I'm not your "bro", child.
     

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