U.S. Should Face up to 'Shameful Past' With Tribal Nations, VP Harris Says

The truth is often inconvenient for entrenched ideologues.
But the truth is always good for them.

 

About the same really. Different, due to the differing histories and cultures but all in all not much better

 

Maybe to you, but lots of schools and libraries have already made the change.

 

Especially in the USA where most "Indians" are now probably whiter than most "whites".

 

Re:

The South didn't start a war, they just wanted to be left alone very much like the former British Colonies in America wanted their independence from distant, parasitic and predatory rulers.

That anyone can say anything praiseworthy about a sadistic, murderous and cowardly madman is at least disappointing.

Here are a few more quotes from the murderous miscreant so dear to the carpetbagging crowd:

QUOTE: In a letter to his wife he said of the southern secessionists: “why death is mercy, and the quicker he or she is disposed of the better . . . . Until we can repopulate Georgia, it is useless to occupy it, but the utter destruction of its roads, houses, and PEOPLE will cripple their military resources"(1)

QUOTE: “I begin to regard the death and mangling of a couple thousand men as a small affair, a kind of morning dash.”(1)
The "men" Sherman took such delight in exterminating were old men, children and women.

QUOTE: "the Government of the United States has in North Alabama, any and all rights which they choose to enforce in war – to take their lives, their homes, their lands, their everything . . . . war is simply power unrestrained by constitution or compact." "We will . . . take every life, every acre of land, every particle of property, everything that to us seems proper,"(1)

The following quote comes from Sherman's genocidal foray into the American West where he continued his mass murder and other inexcusable war crimes.

QUOTE: "It is one of those irreconcilable conflicts that will end only in one way, one or the other must be exterminated . . . . We must act with vindictive earnestness against the Sioux, even to the extermination, men, women and children" ... "The more Indians we can kill this year, the less will have to be killed next year," wrote Sherman. "They all have to be killed or be maintained as a species of paupers."(1)


It is difficult to think of any more despicable war criminal from any country or any era who so proudly oversaw so much mass plunder, mass murder of civilians, mass gang rapes of both Southern White and Black women and gratuitous destruction.



(1) "William T. Sherman: Mad General - Mass Murderer"
https://www.flickr.com/photos/jstephenconn/3902691684

 

Sherman and Grant were the two great Civil War military leaders whose campaigns pointed the way to the 20th century. Grant's Vicksburg campaign was the masterpiece of the war, while Sherman's Georgia campaign was a model for armor commanders through WW2 and beyond. Sherman was especially admired by B.H. Liddell Hart.

 

politically correct clowns

 

The idea that General Shermans actions caused large numbers of civilian deaths in the south is completely false.

 

At least they have the day right

 

How so?

 

When the Michigan water crisis occurred, politicians and community leaders were everywhere - talking about how awful it was and how it needed to be fixed NOW. Unfortunately, the tribal nations across the country suffer from insufficient and arsenic laden water - but no real discussion about it. It isn't just a shameful past that needs to be recognized, it is the current state of neglect that native communities face that needs attention.

 

I disagree. Indians in Mexico do not live on reservations because there aren't any reservations. They are treated the same as any other Mexican. If the US had treated our native Americans the same, they wouldn't be living in the 3rd world conditions that they do (unless by choice).

 

Native Americans prior to Columbus.

 

I remember this.
https://www.independentsentinel.com/lest-we-forget-hillarys-china-gate-scandal/

 

This part got my attention:

Then-Vice President Al Gore received political donations from Buddhist nuns who had taken a vow of poverty.

 

I was just told it’s only rightists who dwell in the past.

 

You admitted to the damage done in schools. I have no clue why Democrats hate the statues.

That magnificent statue of Lee on monument Ave is cut up I understand. What a sight it was. I visited a number of battle sites in VA but expect the woke crowd will want those eliminated and returned to farm land as well. Democrats did so many bad things they want all traces removed.

 

Not all traces, they still have a few statues of a woman abusing drug addicted career criminal they honor, George Floyd. And of course, who can forget the woman abusing homophobic bigot who has streets and schools named after him all over the country, MLK.

 

It is my understanding that up and down Monument Ave they have removed any statue of figures of the Civil war. But I bet the statue of the Tennis player Arthur Ashe is still up. And that statue per particular posters is of no historical value.

 

So, personal insults is all you got, eh?

 

Unsurprising:

 

This will also become part of the conversation:

 

This woman has some nerve to talk about that. Isn’t this woman’s family connected to the slave trade in Jamaica? Sounds to me as if she should fork out millions out of her own wallet for these reparations.

 

This is a reminder that it is not only in the southern U.S., that people like to fictionalize history. It means that more research is required of me, if I wish to have a truer sense of our nation's past.

While this white-washing of our country's history should come as no surprise, since people seem to have a natural tendency to make interpretive adjustments, in their conceptions about even their own, individual past, it still strikes me as ironic to have those who try to deny or minimize racist elements of the history of the south, complain about people of the north, not being honest, in their own romanticizing of past federal actions. In the version of our history, then, which indoctrinates us all into American society, we are presented with a conspiracy of omissions.

So the two expressions that seem an appropriate end to my post, are one that I just came across, Clifford's Maxim, "(I)t is wrong always, everywhere, and for everyone, to believe anything upon insufficient evidence;" and, sadly, the well-known axiom, that those who cannot remember the past, are condemned to repeat it.

 

For the benefit of other readers, I will mention that those are FULL quotations, from Space_Time's posts. The rest of each is an article SNIP.

I am curious as to why you enter these two things into, "the conversation," without, yourself, sharing any of your thoughts or opinions, about them.

Do you like to first see, before giving your perspective, which way the wind is blowing?