Ukraine bus attack kills 12 as airport battle worsens

I love when payed Russian agents who claim to be from the West but can't speak a lick of English and do nothing but post Russian propaganda on a daily basis claim that others are trolls, laughable.

Nobody lied about Georgia except for Fascist Russian Pigs. In fact it has now been proven that Russia is guilty of ethnic cleansing in South Ossettia just as they are guilty of ethnic cleansing in the Crimea.

 

This is from the Washington Blog. It shows what Kiev is now up to, and why it might have needed a false flag attack, and also the difference between the Nationalist volunteers (Nazis) who were told to kill civilians (ethnically cleanse), and the conscripts who are depressed about it:
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What is Kiev Up To?

For the last few days Kiev has gone on the offensive again. In the last 24 hours Kiev has broken the peace treaty over 60 times. Incendiary shells rained down on Donetsk overnight. Over the previous 24 hours prior to that Kiev attacked over 40 times. Donbass forces are now on a counter offensive retaking towns Poroshenko’s forces have attacked with tanks in what is supposed to be neutral area.

In a hacked document from Ukrainian SBU (equivalent to FBI) head Valentin Nalyvaichenko, dated December 25th, 2014, attacks on civilians in towns occupied by the Ukrainian army were ordered. (Note: this is in the Ukrainian Government controlled area, not in the rebel-held area.) The document states that patriotic nationalist officers were to set up temporary artillery positions and kill civilians.

The reasoning according to the document is low Ukrainian troop morale. Local citizens are questioning the soldiers’ right to be there, and these citizens support the Novorussia volunteers. Ukrainian conscript-soldiers are losing the will to continue fighting in the war. (The objective of simply killing the local residents — the people who live there — is not what they had thought that the alleged ‘Anti-Terrorist Operation,’ or ATO, was all about.)

The document was not written by conscripts, who are the general Ukrainian population; it was instead written by a true-believing nazi, or fascist racist, an individual who instead represents the people that the Obama Administration (now with the full support of the U.S. Congress) had placed into power during the February 2014 coup — and these nazis’ particular hatred is directed specifically against Russians, and against anyone who supports Russia and Russians.

The killing of the residents there is thus a morale-booster for the relatively few nazis who are fighting on the side of the Ukrainian Government, but not for the majority of that Government’s troops, for whom it is the opposite: very depressing to be participating in.

The document stipulates that after the attacks are completed, nationalist officers were to then move the artillery positions and blame Donbass defense forces for the attack. This propaganda move is designed to enrage conscripts in the Ukrainian army against “the enemy” and raise morale needed for the offensive Kiev is now beginning. The officers would be reassigned to a different location away from the apparent war crime.





The document shown above is more clear evidence of crimes against humanity by the Ukrainian government. The question is how long will they be allowed to investigate their own criminal actions, and when will the world demand justice for the people of Ukraine and Donbass?

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2015...-blame-bus-tragedy-justify-kiev-atrocity.html

 

In Odessa in those time was pro-ukrainian action of Kharkiv football team "Metallist" before the game as usually, I know, because have friend in Kharkiv ultras. Why you are did not sayed that armed people attack them? They shoted down some ultras guys, what was at the end everybody know.

http://news.bigmir.net/ukraine/813952-Pojavilis--novye-foto-i-video-strelkov-v-Odesse-2-maja

 

If in Ukraine is the civil war, why then dead terrorists burys in Russia?

Maybe it's pentagon or nato are using grad in live quartal of Donetsk?



[video=youtube;oWdxJJpJXcw]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWdxJJpJXcw[/video]

 

I liked your compliment. I learned 8 years German and 5 years of Punjabi language , now English - sometimes when I speak, all languages in my head are confused and disturb thoughts.

but Who say

I'm for sure, it is Fascist Pigs

PS:in the Crimea three official languages...

 

Show me dead terrorists from Russia?
When the Ukrainian troops exchange prisoners from Donbass, all prisoners appear Ukrainians. (from both parties) you didn't think about it?

 

Maybe there are? http://gruz200.net/?p=209 Two hundred pages as you can see

 

But these fakes are how low-standard, how clumsily all this is made, how desirable is given for the incident!
And after all someone pays for this nonsense...from here http://maxpark.com/community/5392/content/3181753

"I so understand, they simply look for on social networks of the photo of the Russian guys in a military uniform, and then fill the site with the "killed" military" from here http://views-news.net/kak-fabrikuetsya-gruz-200-iz-rossiyskih-desantnikov/ etc.

It promotion work only inside Ukraine

 

Maybe it also have some mistakes, but you asked me about russians in ukraine, there are thousands photos of russians from ukraine in those cite. Your attemps to show russian agression like civil war between ukrainians looks too sadly.

 

Did he start the bloody coup a year ago? Did he move his army to Donbass to use heavy weaponry at people with different political beliefs?

There is a responsibility of Putin for sure. Something should have been done at Ukraine before. About 10-15 years ago when there started falsifications of history and growth of nationalist propaganda there. Something should have been done with the very first Maidan that broke the state and democracy procedures there. If ten leaders of the first Maidan were killed then millions of people today would be safe. But on the other hand Putin had no reponsibility for Ukraine as it was an independent state.

 

In February the legal government was overthrown the other night after signing an agreement with Yanukovich that the armed gangs in the streets would remove from the administration buildings all over the country and Yanukovich will set an election. After this people of Crimea who have always felt very negative against the Bandera-lovers made their choice. The key factor was not the russian troops, but the referendum in Crimea which was truely ignored. That is strange to be honest. If west wanted their puppets in all of the Ukraine they should have preserved that state a year ago in February presurising the 'opposition', But the west allowed their puppets to start killing their former citizens in Odessa, Mariupol' and Donbass. That was why the war started.

If Russia didn't protect the will of crimeans there would be a war in the peninsula.

You should remember that Kharkov had a really massive protests against Euromaidan and a lot of people from Khar'kov are being killed in fascist prisons there for you could write such things in the Internet. Do you really think that your viewpoint is worthy of someone's life?

There about 20% in Donbass like you. The rest hate Bandera-lovers and for the moment they are really going to kill them for their families were being destroyed for quite a long time. I would say that regarding the situation in the front you are in danger because of your viewpoints.

It wasn't. The rockets of grad went about 500 meters away from the post and it was separated by a treeline making it very difficult for the shooters to miss.
The rockets went into the TV picture, the mine was triggered by the fascists near the bus which was clearly stopped and it could have been only the ukrainian fascists who could stop it there. Right at the site where the women were killed for the camera and justification of the next wave of mobilization. What is so strange to you?

 

Because they write it in your newspapers. There are plenty of people from Russia in Donbass. Almost every third family in Russia has relatives in Ukraine. And all of us understand that fasicts will never stop. They got Kharkov - they will aim at Donetsk. They got Donetsk - they aim at Crimea. They get Crimea - they aim at Kouban, Voronezh, Moscow, Ural, Kamchatka. The bloody 'victory; of Euromaidan means the war and destruction for all the 'ukrainians'. The war will continue until they are not killed or don't give up.

Yes they are shooting from the outskirts of the city. What's the problem? Do you think it is a reasonable justification for destroying peaceful people in the nearby buildings like they tell you in your news?
The aim of invaders is to kill as many people as possible justifying their actions with anything possible. The aim of defenders is to push the invaders from the territory which allows the invaders to kill the people. It's quite obvious that there is noone to be protected in the airport of Donetsk and it's also quite evident that this position is used for correction of fire at city of Donetsk. So there is no question who is an invader in this civil war. The rest is just a shallow propaganda.

 

What does it prove? THere are thousands of ukrainians in Russia. What does it change? Nothing. What does it prove? Nothing. Except for several things - we are one people, one nation, we speak one language and our conflict is extremely favourable for our common enemies. It wasn't russians attacking prowestern L'vov. We could invade it or bomb it that noone in the world could do anything to stop it. But for the moment it is you who attack Donbass just in order to provoke russian military to step in the conflict. That is all the tasks your masters have for your life. You need to be killed by me that I am shown guilty and bloody to the rest of the world. If the plan succeeds then EU would have to give up the economic growth and invest billions into aggressive plans of US in the muslim countries... The war is exceptional way out from the economic trap of US.

 

You spoke about the Russian terrorists... unless Russians on Donbass are recognized as the world community as terrorists? (Except Ukraine and the USA also can in couple of the countries) They not terrorists . These are volunteers from Russia. In Russia hundreds of nationalities including Ukrainians. That that there thousands of Russian volunteers too not the fact. You can't show all of them the passport. On the party of the Ukrainian army also the people from everywhere. Nevertheless, any can watch video where Donbass held a referendum, in other words the most part of Ukrainians from these regions really against the Kiev power for which they didn't vote. People with Donbass participates in resistance to the Kiev authorities and who helps them it People with Donbass participates in resistance to the Kiev authorities and who helps them it is secondary...http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=391670&page=3&p=1064647613#post1064647613

 

Your fascists imperialistic views are disgusting. Ukraine is sovereign country where people should choose how to live themselves. We do not need "brother's" help in form annexing a part of our country and sending troops to our regions. The first maidan was because Yanukovich falsificated elections with russian help, ukrainian society could not accept it. Constitution сourt acknowledged that the elections were held with violations and invalid.

 

All our government have fled. Yanukovich ran away to Russia, prime minister ran away to Austria, vice-prime-minister ran away, ministers ran away, attorney general ran away to Russia, speaker of parliament ran away (maybe to Russia), a half of deputs ran away. This faked referendum is just dust to eyes. The Crimea parliament was blocked by armed people, at the closed session where nobody know who was, appeared newself-proclaimed "prime-minister of crimea".

"If Russia didn't protect the will of crimeans there would be a war in the peninsula." So, in you opinion this war was begun by Ukraine? Russian troops, tanks, grads, buks and other weapons in not the reason?

"The rockets went into the TV picture, the mine was triggered by the fascists near the bus which was clearly stopped and it could have been only the ukrainian fascists who could stop it there. Right at the site where the women were killed for the camera and justification of the next wave of mobilization. What is so strange to you?"

You can lie as much as you want. Block-post have been shoted by grad. No doubts, because we can see it video which you can find in youtube.

 

LOL, so, fascists ukrainians wanted to invade kamchatka, ok, ok. Maybe Ukraine is the sponsor of world terror?

 

[MENTION=61186]Yazverg[/MENTION]...A cloned account. You can recognize it by the style of his writing. He already has one account. You're being trolled. There is no rational discussion with trolls.

Incidentally, it appears that Novorossiya forces are indeed inside the airport and are slowly progressing. The only way to protect Donetsk civilians from continual bombing by Ukrainian troops and their paramilitary formations based at the airport is to completely dislodged them from the airport and surrounding areas.

Pro-Russian Forces Enter Donetsk Airport As Ukrainian Military Loses Ground

By Christopher Harress @Charress c.harress@ibtimes.com

http://www.ibtimes.com/pro-russian-...rport-ukrainian-military-loses-ground-1783636

 

"We can invade", "We can bomb", "We should kill", "our enemies", "ukraine provoking russian military", "You need to be killed". So, what can I answer? Nothing. Do you understand that you just now repeated Hitler's thesis's in time of Munich crisis? Joseph Goebbels takes off his hat. I'm
applauding, really.

 

Terrorists should leave cities and places where living civilians. There are using artillery inside city
defending themselves by civilians.

 

Do not write nonsense. Noone is shielded by civilians in Donbass. Civilians sit at homes and bombs cover the civilian districts. In my home town near Donetsk, Krasnogorovka, an empty school on the main square was destroyed by Ukranian Army in summer. What for?

 

Your words is dancing on bones of civilian people and it causes a feeling of deep aversion for me. Terrorists shooting from the city, so they are responsible, because they can shot, ukrainian army - can not. City is not fortress, block of flats where living people is not walls. In fact they made civilian people as their own hostage. If terrorists really want to defend cities, they should be around, not in.

 

Without knowing the IPs I cannot really say that. The language of the guys under propaganda influence looks alike. Sometimes very different people start saying the same things.

It's hard to stay rational for the moment. If you look at my messages from the start here I came here being afraid of the war at the time when everyone felt safe and sound. For the moment when people are dying and I see the corpses of innocent people every day I cannot call myself a 100% rational. Well, I try, but it is no longer possible. I can't tell what I try to do for the moment. This war has no obvious win. I don't see any chance or sense of it. I hope for a miracle which would save us all. From this viewpoint talking to a throll is not that big loss IMHO.

 

it would make sense if Ukrainian army didn't shoot at 'terrorists' in a situation like this. Then it wouldn't make a problem and 'responsibility' which you are talking of. But the thing is that ukrainian army is shooting at the city pursuing its goals. That's why your propaganda tells you about the 'responsibility of terrorists'. That is the only sense.

Nothing. If you want to answer the question you have an unused possibility still. Just take not a couple of words to create an image you want, but try to understand the idea and to provide your counter argument.

Of course not. Ukraine is a terrorist by itself. It threatens with war, crimes, rise of hostility and risks to environment to all its neighbours at the expense of these neighbours. Their main sponsor stays away from these troubles and is the least likely to be touched by any of the numerous threats which Ukraine possess by the fact of its current existence.

 

So what? This post you attached means nothing. Now in Internet they can write whatever they want to write. I think that terrorists are those who use a heavy artillery against civilians in Donetsk. Even if one assumes that separatists hide behind the civilians in the city, it does not give a right to Ukranian army to use an artillery.