UN commission says Israel committed war crimes during Gaza border protests. <<MOD WARNING>>

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  1. RiaRaeb

    RiaRaeb Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes please, back up your memes with some facts!
     
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    ocean515 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You introduced it. That's your issue.

    Winners occupy. Losers weep.

    History of mankind.
     
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    Poohbear Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Just the first link I found on Wiki
    As of 2013, Israel had been condemned in 45 resolutions by United Nations Human Rights
    Council
    . Since its creation in 2006—the Council had resolved almost more resolutions
    condemning Israel than on the rest of the world combined. The 45 resolutions comprised
    almost half (45.9%) of all country-specific resolutions passed by the Council....


    Also from unwatch.org

    • UN Human Rights Council: From its creation in June 2006 through June 2016, the UN Human Rights Council over one decade adopted 135 resolutions criticizing countries; 68 out of those 135 resolutions have been against Israel (more than 50%). Details below.
    • UN Nations General Assembly: From 2012 through 2015, the United Nations General Assembly has adopted 97 resolutions criticizing countries; 83 out of those 97 have been against Israel (86%). Details below.
    • UNESCO: Each year, the United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization (UNESCO) adopts around 10 resolutions a year criticizing only Israel. UNESCO does not criticize any other UN member state in a country-specific resolution (100%). An exception occurred in 2013, when, under pressure from UN Watch, UNESCO adopted one resolution on Syria.
    • World Health Organization: For one week every year, the UN World Health Assembly, the decision-making body of the World Health Organization (WHO), meets to formulate global health policy. Resolutions are adopted to address global health issues. There is one exception: the annual resolution entitled “Health conditions in the occupied Palestinian territory, including east Jerusalem, and in the occupied Syrian Golan,” which singles out Israel for condemnation; no other country in the world is condemned by the WHO.
    • ILO: The International Labour Organization (ILO) was established to improve conditions of labor, regulate work hours, fight unemployment, assure adequate living wages, and protect workers worldwide. At its annual conference, however, the ILO produces a single country-specific report castigating Israel.

    Just Google 'UN bias Israel' and get the figures.
    It's hard to believe the horrors going on around the world, PARTICULARLY THE
    ARAB MIDDLE EAST yet Democratic Israel is responsible for HALF of all the
    atrocities in the world. Really? Really?
    You okay believing UNESCO that Israel has no historic claim to Jerusalem?
     
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    ocean515 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I don't know what the point is.

    What I do know is that the history of mankind on the planet shows Nations regularly ignore laws to conquer weaker Nations.

    North Korea, Iran, etc., etc., ignore the GC.

    Lesson 1, be strong.
     
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    RiaRaeb Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No you introduced it, losers falsify!
     
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    Hmm. As you just confirmed.

    Best to be a winner, as Israel, the US, and many other Nations have confirmed.

    Ask the Sumerians about losing, if they still existed.....

    The story of the evolution of mankind. There are no ancestral lands, just places where our ancestors once lived.
     
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    Let's not use the word "conquer" when dealing with Israel.
    Israel is the home of the Jews.
    The Jews were stopped from buying back some of this land, and attacked.
    The Jews have continued to build stronger defenses and contiguous land with each attack.
    The Jews were in Gaza but withdrew.
    The Jews have offered the Palestinians land swaps to maintain their land size.
    The Jews have a prosperous Arab population within their borders with full rights.
    The Jews made generous offers to Palestinians - offers which were accepted after being withdrawn.
    The Jews have to make a lot more concessions than the Arabs during talks, but still not enough.
    The Jews have power to remove all Arabs from Palestine - something Arabs would do in reverse.

    This doesn't seems like conquest to me. More like a dispute between two people with ancient claims
    to the same land.

    I fear that tomorrow, maybe with Russian backing, the Arab states will again test Israel. The outcome
    to a war weary, tiny country, besieged on three sides and the sea on the fourth, will opt to destroy its
    enemies completely. It can do that.
     
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    Fair enough.

    But the issue being discussed was land obtained by Israel as a result of victory in the Six Day War.

    As to ancient claims, they are worthless. Peoples can claim whatever they want, but that doesn't mean anything.

    As the history of mankind proves, the strong prevail, the weak don't.
     
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    We live in an age where "indigenous" people are making some headway on this issue.
    We could one day have an Aboriginal state in Australia - hate to see it though.
    It's not just an "ancient claim" here - you should know its hugely more complex than that:
    we are dealing with an ancient PEOPLE who face the most persistent and enduring hate
    of any race - and to whom Israel is the only place they can call home, the only defensible
    place for them.
    Arabs can live in the other 99.9% of the Middle East - no other nation is going to accept
    the Jews setting up a nation within their borders. And the Jews know full well that a Gentile
    friend today might not be a friend tomorrow.

    ps that 99.9% I am told is the actual figure of Jewish holding in the Middle East.
     
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    I can appreciate the Aborigines of Australia feel persecuted.

    The problem is, human evolution doesn't care about their "rights".

    Mankind has apparently prospered because the strong dominated the weak. It doesn't appear to have backtracked and rewarded the weak for failure to thrive and dominate it's surroundings.
     
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    I'm not surprised that some posters, like you, start with personal attacks in order to defend Israel, and doesn't respond to the criticism on the country at all.

    Indeed. And currently the conqueror is judged to the norms and laws we agreed upon across the entire world. And we condemn that Jew state, it's government, the voters, the IDF and all it's soldiers for slaughtering children, disabled people, health workers and the press. And so they all will go down in the history books to shame to the ends of times.

    Spoken like a true believer of fascism and the master race doctrine.
     
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    Truth - Israel send it's children on fresh ethnically cleansed land -even beyond it's borders- to occupy the lands in a war zone. The Jews immigrated by the millions to Israel and thieved those lands from civilians and are not the rightful owners. They will never be.
    Truth - Nobody likes immigrants. Go as Obama who kicked out the most immigrants of any president. Go ask Trump, the builder of walls.
    Truth - You got a right to defend your own property. It's perfectly normal.
    Truth - There is no right to defend what you thieved.
    Truth - The US would send it's army if a bunch of immigrating Latin Americans came to the US and start stealing peoples property. The US army would have killed them as long as they would resist. Collateral damage happens
    Truth - If the Jews don't like to be shot at for being on property that aint theirs, than they can just leave and go back where they came from.
     
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    Lesson 1. If you go to war. Win.
     
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    No the word stolen is much more apropriate since they achieved the hegmony on the backs of British and Arab blood!
    No, the majority of the Jews do not live in Israel, the home of the Jews is the same as everybody else, mostly the country they were born in.
    No, the people who lived there did not want to sell their land! Surprise surprise!
    Simply false, they build defenses on the land they attacked in 1967. As I and others have shown the Israelis (or Fakajews) attacked in 1967 and lied about it.
    The FakaJews still occupy Gaza according to most of the world and international law.
    The land thieves offered to give back some of what they have stolen but continue to lie and cheat anyone they make a deal with
    The Fakajews do not give full rights to the Arabs they do not even allow them to be an Israeli national splitting everything by the ethnicity of their people.
    The land thieves offered to give back some of what they have stolen but continue to lie and cheat anyone they make a deal with
    The land thieves offered to give back some of what they have stolen but continue to lie and cheat anyone they make a deal with
    History shows that was not the case for hundreds of years when Jews(real ones) lived in peace with the Muslims and Christians, indeed they were Arab Jews.
    That is instead of actually reading and learning the truth you simply believe the Fakajews creation narrative.
    As another poster said, might is right, the fakajews live by the sword and will probably die by it. I would rather there was a peaceful solution but as the other claims "might is right". What is interesting is how often the fakajews threaten nuclear war, but we know from the history books the have a penchant for suicide!
     
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    Or more correctly, make sure you have enough influence in the worlds superpower, be it the British to win your country for you and then the US to keep it for you!
     
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    Whatever. Lesson 1, win. I guess Lesson 2. Keep winning.
     
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    RiaRaeb Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No you have accused others of being antisemitic. You introduced the subject then pretended you did not.
     
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    Wrong. I did no such thing. Show me where I did.
     
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    Forever or accept the complete annihilation of your country. But the fakajews should be wary of claiming victory too soon and should stop accusing others of being terrorists.
     
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    I already have.
     
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    True. Keep winning or lose. That's how it's always worked.

    Ask the Sumerians. Ask the Akkadians. On and on it goes.
     
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    You fail. Don't be a weak loser. That has never worked out well.
     
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    Ask the European Jews in WW2?
     
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    Lesson 1: get caught with killing the press, children, disabled, health workers -> get the full wrath of condemnation of your subhuman behavior.
     
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    Responding to a personal attack by mentioning it is not a personal attack. It's an attempt to stop the attacker from continuing to do so.

    Yet, it's clear my objective did not work, since you are continuing with the personal attacks.

    Israel clearly is strong, as victory in war has lead to increased footprint in the region. It remains strong as it has been able to hold on to those lands it achieved in victory.

    This is undeniable.

    I'm not surprised people on the losing side complain. I think that is reasonable. People don't like to be losers.
     

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