UN demands prosecution of Bush-era CIA crimes

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  1. Jack Napier

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    A United Nations investigator has demanded that the US publish classified documents regarding the CIA’s human rights violations under former President George W. Bush, with hopes that the documents will lead to the prosecution of public officials.

    Documents about the CIA’s program of rendition and secret detention of suspected terrorists have remained classified, even though President Obama’s administration has publicly condemned the use of these “enhanced interrogation techniques”. The US has not prosecuted any of its agents for human rights violations. (Went back to Tel Aviv - Jack)

    UN investigator Ben Emmerson, the UN special rapporteur on the promotion and protection of human rights while countering terrorism, said that the classified documents protect the names of individuals who are responsible for serious human rights violations.



    “Despite this clear repudiation of the unlawful actions carried out by the Bush-era CIA, many of the facts remain classified, and no public official has so far been brought to justice in the United States,” Emmerson said in a report to the UN Human Rights Council, according to Reuters.



    Kept in secret prisons around the world, the CIA’s detainees were subjected to torture including waterboarding, sleep deprivation and various other interrogation techniques that violate human rights. The detainees were often subjected to clandestine transfers to secret prisons known as CIA ‘black sites’.(Gulags, very Stalin like)



    “There is now credible evidence to show that CIA ‘black sites’ were located on the territory of Lithuania, Morocco, Poland, Romania and Thailand, and that the officials of at least 49 other states allowed their airspace or airports to be used for rendition flights,” Emmerson said, describing how suspected terrorists were often detained without being charged for any crimes, receiving extradition procedures or having access to lawyers.(They have had these types of things in Israel since the 40's)


    Emmerson has urged the US to prosecute any public official who was involved in setting up the CIA "black sites" at which human rights or legal violations occurred. Even though the Obama administration has condemned those who promoted the use of such facilities for inhumane procedures, the administration has taken no steps to punish any of its public officials. Attorney General Eric Holder has said that the Justice Department would not take legal actions against those who "acted in good faith" and followed the guidelines provided by the Office of Legal Counsel during the Bush era.

    But without names and details about the involvement of US officials at CIA black sites, the government is maintaining a level of secrecy and “perpetuating impunity for the public officials implicated in these crimes,” Emmerson said. A Senate committee led by Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) previously investigated the CIA’s interrogation program and may have had complete access to classified information about it.

    Emmerson has called for this information to be published “without delay, and to the fullest extent possible.”

    While the UN special rapporteur lacks the power to force the Obama administration to release this information, his report puts further pressure on the US government to expose a practice it publicly condemns, but continues to keep secret.

    http://rt.com/usa/un-crime-cia-bush-804/

    If law and decency must apply to the common citizen, so must it apply to all, esp to our public servants, right?

    Let's not forget, it is they who are meant to serve us, and answer to us.

    Not the other way around.

    True?

    No wonder Bush et all embraced this ....Reg. 111 - ADMINISTRATIVE DETENTION: empowers the government/military to imprison people for up to 6 months without trial or formal charges. After 6 months, the case must be reviewed, and the detention can then be renewed at that point. Candidates for administrative detention may appeal to a military advisory committee, which can only issue non-binding recommendations. Evidence can be kept from the candidate and his lawyer for security reasons

    The inspiration for anti values....http://www.israellawresourcecenter.org/emergencyregs/essays/emergencyregsessay.htm
     
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    Taxcutter demands that the US Senate abrogate the UN treaty and the administration to PNG all UN-accredited diplomats.
     
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    As long as they take into account that the people in question might not have known all that they should have known and that they acted in good faith. We can't have all politicians charged for their errors afterwards, nothing would get done!
     
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    Arrest 'em all !
     
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    It's no excuse for us, why should it be for them?
     
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    we don't have the nation's fate in ou hands as they do either. It could lead to the decision makers being paralyzed by fear of persecution afterwards in time when swift decision need to be made.
     
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    Come on...they have to be beyond reproach then, and they have to take personal responsibility.

    Ignorance is no defence.
     
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    i'm not saying that they should be immune from any persecution afterwards, just take what I said must be taken into account. And that they should never feel any fear which might make them take a bad decision in a crisis.
     
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    Let me get this straight: "Napier" thinks we should soil our skivvies because some UN blowhard doesn't like the way we do business --is that about right ??:eyepopping:

    I am reminded of the flea-crawling up the elephant's leg with impure intentions.:cool:

    Eminently risible.:rolleyes:
     
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    Jack also thinks the ICC has jurisdiction over the US lol.
     
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    They moved pretty quickly on this. Is the UN going to demand documents on the British military's use of torture in Northern Ireland?
     
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    It's a moral jurisdiction which causes apoplexy in neo-conservatives.
     
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    Why should we care what some do-nothing, know-nothing, corrupt UN blowhard says.

    This scumbag is a first-class reason for abrogation of the UN treaty.

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    "...a moral jurisdiction..."

    Taxcutter says:
    The UN and morality are mutually exclusive.

    Flush the UN.
     
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    I haven't seen anybody refer to themselves in the third person since ' Boardwalk Empire ' .
     
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    I use "Taxcutter says:" to delineate what i say from quotations. It is recognized as valid in the Chicago Book of Style.

    Back on topic: Flush the UN.
     
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    It's such a brazen display of the absence of care whatsoever that innocents are knowingly abused to an extreme in the pursuit of a particular goal and those who are responsible abdicate that responsibility when called to account.

    It's cowardly.
     
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    A UN investigator is not the UN. Revealing that he has nothing to say of the execution by drone under the Obama administration.

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    Who determined that they are innocent? Innocent till proven guilty is appicable to criminal law, not war.
     
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    Bush is a skull and bones member, also a member of the bilderbergs, among other groups, who like to play monopoly, and chess with real humans. The guy is guilty, as is his father, of crimes against humanity. Many innocent people died because of decisions he made.

    I fully support prosecution of both bushes, and of obama as soon as his reign is over with.
     
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    Ooooooooooooooooo ! Bilderbergs !!!:eekeyes:

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/billfla...ers-new-world-orders-and-conspiracy-theories/

    Right from the pages of Wingnut Daily !!:roflol:
     
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    Total weirdness, whatever way you look at them.

    Perverse? Sure. Secretive? Yes. Anti democratic? Of course.

    All such societies do not get enough attention, and they deserve more light shone on them, as for me, they are a suspect device.
     

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