That's how government and society works. All the true believers will realize this when they come for your human-driven cars in a few decades.
Actually you can say anything you want about handguns in General, I could care less, much less, I spent years shooting, and served in various areas where shooting was a component, even as a Constable in a small Tropical Country, etc... I do know this, at the end of the day, Guns made a difference in my life. I trained and learned about Firearms from several distinct perspectives, other Countries etc... There seems to be nothing more volatile and subjective than Firearms and training. I once traveled to Tennessee to the home of a friend, I fired a Ruger M-77 chambered for 6.5-06, 120 grain HP a very nice faster flat shooting load, at 3,200 fps If I remember correctly, I was shooting at a letter sized envelope on a flimsy branch at 300 yards, there was a modest breeze blowing, I was shooting prone, with a sling and scope, had never shot this Rifle before, first two shots were .25 inches, third flyer opened to 1 inch, I thought it was good shooting, My friend described it as no big thing. That is a great example of life in General, you will always have detractors, no matter, I know I have done well.
So ? You refuse to see a point, most people of the Doolittle persuasion in life, seem to live to put down those that have. Just as you choose to modify my online name, which was chosen because of my Medical work. It is indeed interesting to study your forms of expressing yourself, it is most telling.
I don't think gun control or better background checks are "hatred of firearms".. Over a thousand guns have been stolen so far this year in Atlanta by a couple of roving gangs that methodically break into cars and pop the glove box.
What have stolen guns got to do with background checks? Background checks are conducted on people, not guns. Background checks violate the Fourth Amendment of the Constitution, which provides: "T]he right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized." Our legal system has found novel ways to circumvent the law; however, if the founding fathers were alive today, they would tell you that the term "papers" would include all the law has on you via electronic means. Background checks are a waste of money and they do not address the misuse of firearms. Give me the same manpower and money you spend on background checks and I'll return it with a solution that will impact the misuse of firearms dramatically.
Should we ask County Sheriffs, to ask black Kentucky Colonels, for some leadership advice regarding the security and domestic Tranquillity of our Counties?
By any stretch of the imagination, it is. Checking the liberals most authoritative source (the one they use on me at least) bears out these synonyms to the word search: Related Words frisk, pat down, shake down; audit, check (out), examine, inspect, investigate, review, scan, scrutinize, survey; ascertain, descry, detect, determine, discover, ferret (out), find, find out, get, hit (on or upon), learn, locate, run down, scare up, track (down); grub (about), poke (around); explore, probe, prospect, skirmish, snoop; browse, glance (over), look over; peruse, study http://www.merriam-webster.com/thesaurus/search Yep. Check and search are the same concept in English.
I fail to see your linking my original post about Hatred of Firearms, to Gun Control or roving Gangs stealing handguns left in glove compartments. I personally have never been in favor of, leaving Guns in glove compartments, given the flimsy nature of most Locked glove compartments. In NYC if your handgun got stolen from a locked glove compartment, the charge would have been, Failure to properly secure a Firearm. Unusual fear or hatred of Firearms was what I was referring to, as if Firearms in and of themselves are inherently wicked or cause Evil deeds by themselves. Cesare Beccaria had the best opinion on Firearms in 1764 ******************* "False is the idea of utility that sacrifices a thousand real advantages for one imaginary or trifling inconvenience; that would take fire from men because it burns, and water because one may drown in it; that has no remedy for evils, except destruction. The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws of such a nature. They disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Can it be supposed that those who have the courage to violate the most sacred laws of humanity, the most important of the code, will respect the less important and arbitrary ones, which can be violated with ease and impunity, and which, if strictly obeyed, would put an end to personal liberty--so dear to men, so dear to the enlightened legislator--and subject innocent persons to all the vexations that the guilty alone ought to suffer? Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve to rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man. They ought to be designated as laws not preventative but fearful of crimes, produced by the tumultuous impression of a few isolated facts, and not by thoughtful consideration of the inconveniences and advantages of a universal decree."
These are 3 man teams with two on foot wearing hoodies and another driving along slowly.. sometimes in gated communities... They sometimes break into 30 cars a night.
Please Who, I've been calling you that from the beginning. I'm not sure what you mean. For someone who often redlines the BS meter, I can you see your affection for Cooper. You knew that once you made a thread about Col Jefe's neologism regarding "hoplophobia" that pushback regarding him would be forthcoming. So much falls through the cracks when you examine the record. He credited with inventing the Bren Ten, but was only an unpaid consultant. Norma designed the round not Jeff and he certainly didn't design the pistol in any form. Then there is the ridiculous "scout rifle" concept he was credited with. FACT: Scout type rifles were produced by Golden State Arms and were called Santa Fe rifles or carbines. They were converted SMLE's and were made only a few miles from where Cooper lived decades before he wrote about the concept. There's no way as a gun writer he didn't know about them. Just another example of Coop taking credit for something he never did or thought of.
And pray tell what do these "better background checks" involve that separate them from what is currently in place? How are they anymore enforceable than the ones at present, that are easily subverted even when they are required by law? And they have all been reported as being stolen, meaning the owners are exercising responsibility.
And where are the reports of such incidents? Where are they mentioned? Where as they proven as being fact?
A background check is no different than a police officer, absent any cause of suspicions, stopping you from walking down the street and restraining you while he check for outstanding warrants, etc. This violates your rights in exactly the same way a background check does.
Please cease talking to me, please put me on ignore, something I have not asked of the resident parrot. Thanks
Except the united states supreme court has determined that even if the initial stop is illegal because the police officer had no justification for stopping you in the first place, the illegal activity is justified if evidence of wrongdoing is found as a result. They have determined that the ends justify the means, and the exclusionary rule is all but dead now.
That is not true, I fail to see why you keep repeating the same wrong information, I read your link to the Supreme Court decision and it upheld that a routine traffic stop based on Race in a Minority Neighborhood, without probable cause, was not sufficient grounds to further detain someone for a records check or search of the vehicle in question sans a warrant or probable cause.
If criminals had to undergo a background check before they could break into cars to steal the guns, we'd not have this problem.
I remember a television Preacher and he said something like; "Have a thought once in a while, you'll be the Genius of your family."
