US apologises for war in Afghanistan

That sort of unconsidered and sneering sort of response is what has turned you into the most hated country on the planet .
You shouting "Troll" is just blank denial .
You cannot believe that we are reaching the point where otherwise sober , rational , professional Western people hate you collectively .
Not individually , but collectively .
I am not here to shout slogans that upset people just for the sake of being childish and exhibitionist .
It is time for Americans to wake up to the fact that people who previously thought of you as well meaning chumps , now regard you as collectively psychotic and far more dangerous to the planet than any other nation .
North Korea and Iran included .
Stop looking in the mirror , and ask yourself why increasingly you can find people like me all over the place .
Don't sneer because that will hasten your down fall .

 

Yes, it is at the bottom of my post.

 

You have an INFLATED idea of your own viewpoint.
Many Americans (myself included) don't like a lot of things that have been going on in America in recent years, but we still regard our general way of life as a lot better than the Islamic lunacy, as well as the ass-kissing going on in the UK in deference to it.

 

Yes, and when America is attacked, invaded and occupied repeatedly, both before and after 9/11, by jihadist Muslim nut balls, it does tend to have a beef with them. And when you don't "go to war", and we do (to save your asses as well as ours) and our guys (primarily) get killed in the process, then you owe us a big THANK YOU for that. Both now and in Churchill's time.
So YOU'RE WELCOME. Now please shut up, OK ?

 

So much so that our troops died, trying to support the criminal elites, in your country, yes, that is how much our state kissed the arse of it, right enough.

Or do you mean the 'people'?

Does not supporting proven liars, and not wanting to see the routine mass murder of Muslims, make one an ass kisser of Islam?

If it does, then by that rationale, anyone that doesn't want to see the mass murder of Jews, is an ass kisser of Judaism, right?

*Somehow I suspect there will be a 'difference'*

 

The last time America was invaded and occupied, and the people killed in large scale number, it was the Native Americans who were the victims, and the white settlers who were those doing the invading, occupying, etc.

But since there is not a lot we can do about that one now, I guess we have to let it slide, but never forget, you are not really American, you were simply born on occupied land, you do not look like a true American would, unless you look like a Native American. You probably look European or British, which would figure, since that is where every single white American has originated from, my friend.

In other words, you have us to thank that you are alive.

 

I would agree that much of Iran has become Islamist-but hardly surprising, really, if you have known no other influence since you were born.

When I lived in London during the 1970s I met and worked with many Iranians, and you couldn't find a more charming, welcoming and friendly people-not to say clever and industrious.
Much has changed but, thanks to the unstoppable internet, the West is again beginning to exert a greater awareness of Iran's potential among those who matter-the young and politically astute.
The Mullahs are not invincible, nor are they immune to peoples' will. Iran already had its Islamic Revolution, about now could be the time for another I sense.

 

I hate the British...all of them...wish they were all dead.

 

There's so much wrong with this. America was never 'invaded' or 'occupied' in any sense, and to try to pretend otherwise is absurd. America suffered a terrorist attack on 9/11.
Next; 'saving asses'. America lost some 400,000+ military personnel in all theatres during WW2. Russia, your and our ally, suffered over 10 million military deaths, and an equal or greater number of civilans killed-so let's have a little perspective here before any dick-waving starts, ok?

Furthermore, had it not been for Pearl Harbour and the subsequent declarations of war by both Japan and Germany, it is highly unlikely America would have got involved at all-such was its isolationist stance-so I wouldn't start with any ideas that America was acting in any way altruistically.
Oh, and we did thank you-and paid back every last cent you lent us.

 

At least you have managed to get to the nub of the discussion .
If it were just my view point , you might have a reasonable perspective .
The trouble is , this is the way the whole planet is thinking .
It is not one person's unusual opinion . It is a global verdict .
The verdict is that , " Americans are no longer fit for purpose " .
And you don't like it , because you cannot believe it .
Trouble is , you are on the way out .Whether you accept , let alone understand .
We just don't like you any more . And do not trust .

 

There's much truth in this. After decades of American global adventurism, decades of utterly pointless and wasteful wars begun for no other reason than ideological differences of opinion, the world is finally waking up to the realisation that American foreign policy is deeply divisive, manipulative and ultimately wholly self-serving.
None of the above characteristics would be found in a true friend...

 

Then who would you have to whine about 'saving asses' to?

 

The entire world hates the toothless, spineless British. Wish they would all just die.

 

Ok, I'll see if I can do a 'Jonestown' poll. I'm sure we'd all be delighted to comply with your fervent wishes

 

Or just ignore him.

As you can see, he is not here for reasonable debate.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Security_Assistance_Force#Contributing_nations

It wasn't the UN, but it was several NATO nations and a rather long list of other ones.

Was there UN authorization for intervention in Libya?

 

Fair enough. Still, you helped us invade Afghanistan without having been bombed, so I guess that makes us even in measuring restraint.

 

I ran into some British tourists today. I went up to them and suggested they kill themselves. I think it ruined their day.

 

Jack, there's no debating anything with you people. You come here to get in our faces, and some of us reciprocate.

 

...and you can be sure that a lot of Americans honestly don't care what you think, much less can find you on a map.

Most of us don't even bother traveling outside of the country, and what reason would we have for it? We've practically got a continent to ourselves.

So, you can hate us all you want, but until you have the force to back that angst up, it doesn't mean a whole lot. Why do you think some people here are so paranoid of China? They're the only country with a military even close to the power of ours -- and there's still a big gap between us.

Yes, we're headed downwards, but it has more to do with our rising debts (some of which are from the military, some not) than whether or not the world likes us. Clearly, most of the world still wants our money or, at least, our debt.

People are fickle anyway. The biggest mistake we ever made with foreign policy was assuming that the "hearts and minds" thing works. 99% of the time, it doesn't. In terms of war, it's better to be feared than loved or liked.

If nothing else, the one thing we'll likely agree on is that America should intervene less. Believe me, if I could snap my fingers and have all of our troops home, I would do it. I would love for us to spend more time protecting our borders than have our people die for pointless conflicts that we're merely postponing due to our presence.

I would love for Israel and the Arabs to just fight things out so I don't have to read about the constant bickering that never (*)(*)(*)(*)ing ends.

I would love for us to never have to buy another single barrel of oil from the Middle East ever again while boosting domestic production.

And most of all, I would love being able to sit back and watch the rest of the world argue with each other while we just make money via trade the way that China wisely decides to conduct itself.

Maybe the best thing we can do is refuse to participate in the next major conflict, both militarily and economically. If we exited NATO and the UN, it would make this much easier, and then some other country could take on the military/funding burdens while also taking the blame.

I would offer China this role, but so far, they're too smart to accept it.

 

I hope you're right about the Iranian people. The riots in response to the rigged elections were a positive sign that many of them hate their government. It takes a while for a successful revolution to commence, but maybe... they'll topple the Ayatollah from within. If they did, it might result in one of the few liberating "Arab Spring" moments.

 

That's going a bit far, don't you think?

 

Yeah, but restraint isn't my forte. British scum come here every day to denigrate and demean us. I've never liked the British, but now my revulsion has spread from these posters to their entire people.

 

Meh, it mostly went to corporate contractors, and since it all trickles down, it must have created enough jobs to spur economic recovery by now...

 

The elections weren't any more rigged than American elections are.