US generates more electricity from renewables than coal for first time ever

Coal is subsidised

 

We have to right to regulate the **** of of a polluting, environmentally damaging, worker killing industry. We should also place equal subsidies on all sources of energy instead of just handing it to oil and coal — or even better, eliminate them in their entirety.

Oh so the environment is suddenly important... strange

 

Um... yeah, I guess we could regulate fast food to the point where nobody can afford it. Then wed be the healthiest country on the planet, just everyone wouldnt be able to eat. Sound strategy.

So suddenly the environment isnt important?

 

Having worked in high tech industry all my career, I still find it hard to grasp that one can still be a luddite in the twenty-first century. Alternate and renewable energy sources replacing coal is as natural as automobiles replacing horses. Large corporations and government agencies are moving rapidly to renewable sources of energy.

Environmental fanatics like the fortune 1000 and the military are shifting to renewables. Coal isn't very scalable, renewable energy and oil are. Oil won't go away anytime soon, nor will natural gas. Coal is rapidly going the way of one of its sources, the dinosaur. Mankind has just begun to tap into the creative energy to transition from fossil fuels to renewables.

That some people resist change is just a fact of life. They don their MAGA hats, curse progress, and pine for an imaginary past.

 

Oh, the horror, having to turn down the AC overnight to 72 degrees instead of 65 if you want to continue mining bitcoins on your energy-guzzling PC, how will humanity survive?

First world problems.

 

Yea come bitch when its 115

 

Go with the most cost efficient energy source. I don't care if it's windmills, coal, gas, or nuclear.

No subsidies.

 

That’s what republicans are doing with healthcare. We have the best healthcare, just most people can not afford it.

Sugar, fats and being incentive are the largest reasons we are unhealthy.
Every time one has tried to be addressed the conservatives have an absolute conniption fit.

 

No it won't, and no renewable will launch a jet aircraft.

If the LW had any brains they'd be supporting nuclear power.

 

We have the most expensive healthcare, but we are #40 on the healthiest country list, behind Costa Rica and Croatia. Spain is #1.

http://worldpopulationreview.com/countries/healthiest-countries/

I don't know what 'being incentive' is, but here's one conservative who agrees diet and lifestyle are huge factors in disease, even cancer. The typical Western diet is not good.

 

Most people can afford it. The vast majority of people had healthcare before Obamacare. In fact, something like 85% had healthcare.

 

Being inactive. My iPad hates me. I can’t spell worth a darn so it just inserts random words.

Sugar was once called the white death. While I am far from overweight, just cutting out most sugar has dropped my BMI from 26 to 23 with zero other changes in a very short period of time.

 

Just because someone has insurance still doesn’t mean they can afford medical treatment especially when they have a several thousand dollar deductible, some family deductibles are over ten grand. I hated the ACA because I like my catastrophic plan and it vanished — it’s back now but it still isn’t a good solution seeing that I have to pay 7500 in medical expenses before it kicks in — if I didn’t have a well paying career I would just go without care until it became serious.

What kind of health system is that? We are the richest nation on earth. We have the largest military than the next several nations combined. Why can we not make sure our citizens are not suffering or struggling for basic needs?

 

I've heard it said if sugar was a new product the FDA wouldn't approve it, it basically is a poison. People don't realize once they get off the sugar addiction it loses it's appeal. IMHO we need to reduce as much as possible consumption of white flour, sugar and salt. Eating whatever tastes good and is cheap will eventually catch up with you.

 

Sugar is so tasty though!

I agree with all of this, while I do not agree with outright bans of very many items I do believe we have a duty to reduce consumption — education is key, additional taxes is another proven strategy.

 

You and I might agree here, Big Agriculture like Archer Daniel Midlands will never tolerate such education. All those cornfields in the Midwest are producing field corn for high fructose corn syrup, a form of sugar which is a poison and which the FDA approves. Like a lot of things in life, if you'll just do the opposite of what most people do you'll be better off, in this case diet and exercise.

 

I don’t mine bitcoin but I need my house at 68 at night or I cannot sleep.
Fair exchange?

I also live in an area that is almost all powered by hydroelectric

 

Tax credits aren’t subsidies. Direct payments, like the one to Solyndra, are subsidies.

I’d be interested in seeing average electric bills based on these new numbers.

I’m not even opposed to renewables. I have solar at my lake house. But renewables suck in the area of transportation.

 

Why should multi billion dollar corporations be getting tax credits for a natural resource they are already stealing from Americans?

 

The oldest tax loophole in the IRS code is the oil depletion allowance. It has been there since 1914.

 

Actually, coal and nuclear are now the high cost producers.

Wind and solar are both on par, or cheaper now.

They also have another very significant advantage.

They don’t cost a lot to build. And now that battery technology has become cheap enough, renewables can produce for the peak power market, store the energy and sell it at peak demand for peak prices.

This will drive growth, which, in turn, will continue to drive costs down.

The most important advantage is the relatively low cost of construction and the quick payback.

The Tesla wind and battery farm at Hornsdale will pay for itself in three years.

By contrast, the Kemper carbon capture coal plant has used up nearly $400 million in federal funds, and more in Wall Street money. The carbon capture and coal burning plant has been abandoned, and is being replaced by natural gas.

Similarly, a four reactor nuclear plant in Abu Dhabi has consumed over $20 billion in cash, and still isn’t running after ten years.

Why would anyone continue to invest in losers like this?????

Which is why the order books are full at the battery factored, windmill and solar panel companies.

 

I guess you don’t know how many depend on the coal industry to put food on the table do you?

 

The term Caveman is sexist and non inclusive. The correct term is Caveperson or Transdwelling individual...

 

How are they stealing them? The Owners of the land where the petroleum is produces always are paid royalties.

How is not taking something from someone a subsidy?

 

You would make a great Democratic candidate for POTUS.