US Indicts Venezuelan Leader Nicolas Maduro, Offers $15 Million Reward For His Capture

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  1. Giftedone

    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The bar that "YOU" set - was handicaps in starving in the street - and during emergencies such as some catastrophe.

    Your definition of "safety net" was basically handicaps not starving in the streets being the non catastrophe time.

    The above is an extreme position = your tolerance bar for welfare is extremely low.

    Gibberish
     
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    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You made the ASSumption that the example provided was the only one.

    Again, arguing for the sake of arguing.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I did not make the assumption - you were the one that made the generalization - then tried to backtrack on your own claim by changing it - followed by projection - accusing others of your issues.

    If you want to state what you meant - then do so - but do stop whining.
     
  4. scarlet witch

    scarlet witch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    ....what you are missing in trying to draw similarities is that I am referring to the oppressors as the problem... yet you are referring as the people being a problem... the scenario you are trying to paint is in reverse, they are opposites....
     
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    scarlet witch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Sanctions are but one of the tools of war, countries whine about the use of sanctions yet the freely attack the US with propaganda, narcoterrorism etc etc.
     
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    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Ok. We're done. You arent in this site for a discussion, you are here to project and argue.

    No thanks. Have fun with that.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You are the one who can't back up your claim - have fun with that :)
     
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    … and yet Ollie North hasn't done one moment of time behind bars.
     
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    IF as YOU say :
    Y
    OU are "referring to the oppressors as being the problem," why do YOU not refer to the Bleeding
    Fact
    , that under the Rug of History, - Brutal American Puppetry, Invasion and Oppression throughout
    Latin America, has been US Policy, from the time of the War with Mexico, right up until NOW, with
    the a-purposed Sanctioning & Starving of the people of Venezuela

    Present US Policy IS this: - Muduro
    is causing the people of Venezuela to die of Starvation & Disease, therefore we must encourage
    Starvation & Disease in Venezuela to make him STOP. - [​IMG]is the matter with YOU people ? [​IMG]

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  10. Jeannette

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    Please tell me when and where you experienced sanctions? I'm curious because I though you were from S. Africa?
     
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    scarlet witch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The ANC and the Soviets
    https://www.politicsweb.co.za/news-and-analysis/the-anc-and-the-soviets


    Essentially the racial struggle in South Africa was simply the goal to rip South Africa (a country with vast resources) away from the West and into the grip of communism. A goal achieved when the Soviet Union fell, and the west was fooled into believing communism fell along with it.
    Liberals on the other hand was fooled into believing they are saving humanity against the most horrible racists the earth could imagine. When all they did was condemn black South Africans to a a future of poverty starvation and suffering.... they still believe they've done a good thing :lol: morons


    Please don't think I'm mistaking Russia for the Soviet Union, however as grateful as I am about the gesture to white farmers from Russia I am also acutely aware that Russia is stepping back into the gap the Soviets left in Africa. After all, it makes sense to do so...
     
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    Yeah all true, then under guidance of Comintern Soros, his NGO's and his media empire they took those same policies of corruption and toppled country after country under the guise of Democracy and corrupted them.... stealing trillions. China's Belt and Road is of course a rip off of those corrupt methods used by the Bush family, CIA, Soros, other Western Countries, China..... list goes on.

    This is the world we live in, the oppressors are not one sided, show me anyone in power today with clean hands,....maybe that's why I'm so angry, who's going to pay for my therapy huh?
     
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    The narcoterrorism can be stopped easily, all Washington has to do is legalize drugs. That way they can be bought with a prescription. But does Washington want to stop it? I don't think so.

    As for propaganda, reacting from grievances is not propaganda. Propaganda is spreading lies to arouse animosity towards others for self serving interests.
     
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    And you know it's lies because you want to believe they are lies. I'm not giving anyone the benefit of the doubt anymore, I'm too pissed for that
     
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    Libya was the wealthiest nation in Africa and Ghadaffi wanted to take them off the petro dollar and put Africa on the gold standard to raise their economies, so they killed him. He once said that if he was killed, the EU will suffer the consequences - and Europe has, especially southern Europe with all the migrants.

    So why are we so intent on pushing people out of their homelands? As for Russia, I think it's a lot better for Russia to undo the mess we made in Africa than China. I trust them more.
     
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    Some rebel kid shot Gadaffi in the head after his capture.
    It wasn't planned, but they made a hero out the kid.
    Not sure why you would think the West want to keep Africa
    poor. I put it to you that you are wrong.

    The only people I know who push people out of their
    homelands today are the greenies in Africa. Read "Green
    Power, Black Death"

    I know that in Africa the Zulus had a campaign of scorched
    earth to drive out all native people who stood in the way of
    their Zulu Empire.
     
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    Africa is dead, killed by Globalists, Communists and Liberals, now it's a feeding frenzy

     
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    I don't think the Western nations want to keep Africa poor, but our policies and self serving interests has damaged them - otherwise why did Ghadaffi want to take them off the Petro dollar and put them on a gold standard to better their economies? He's not the only one killed for wanting to go off the Petro dollar. Some say Saddam Hussein was killed for the same reason. What I do know for certain, is that right after the head of the French company Total said he would go off the petro dollar and not go along with the sanctions on Russia, his plane had a freak accident on the runway.

    Ghadaffi did say that if he was killed, the EU will suffer because of it. Well he was right wasn't he? Wasn't Europe swarmed with migrants from Africa? Today there is a war going on in Libya because Erdogan wants ownership of all the former Ottoman territories, and doesn't give a damn about international laws and territorial rights. And why should Erdogan care, doesn't our government do the same thing? [​IMG]
    One should never judge a tree by its stature,
    nor the power of the name it wears.
    One's judgement should only come,
    from the merits of the fruit it bears - Jeannette



     
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    Nigeria is doing fine.
    It's at what, the same growth rate as China?
    One third of sub-Sahara Africa is at 6%.
    South Africa will go the way of Zimbabwe, why?
    Because the South African blacks want it that way.
    Don't blame other nations for your own failings.
    Long term it's your own decisions that count.
    Japan admired Western societies and developed
    her own version of them - they, like Sth Korea,
    Taiwan, Singapore etc are doing fine.
     
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    South Africa wanted to create separate homelands but Britain and the US wouldn't allow it. Instead they forced integration on two alien cultures and made a mess out of S. Africa. Yet in Syria, where the Christians and Muslims have been living together for over a thousand years, Britain and the US have been supporting terrorists to overthrow Assad's secular all inclusive government, and split up Syria a la Balkan style. That way they will be at one another's throats.

    While in Ukraine, where Ukrainian, Russian, Hungarian, Polish, Romanian, Tartar and Greek are spoken, instead of encouraging the country to federate into separate states so they can have peace, Washington's government in Kiev, turns a blind eye to the ethnic cleansing of anyone who refuses to give up their own language and heritage.

    Had Britain and the US worked with S. Africa to find a workable solution, one where the black homelands could prosper, yet still be part of S. Africa so that people could go back and forth at will, both blacks and whites would have been content. Instead Britain and the US brought pressure on S. Africa to please the black contingency in their own countries, and didn't give a damn as to what was the best for the blacks or whites in S. Africa.
     
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    Pooh you are ignoring history, a history of communist pursuit of South Africa via the UN, implementation of sanctions pushed by communist countries and the useful idiots otherwise referred to as Liberals who to this very day believe they have saved South Africa from racists. The country now on the brink of starvation a scenario so dire it will make the award winning pic (below) look like MacDonalds at peak hour.

    I appreciate that you are not aware of exactly how the entire Africa have been sold out... you can go and watch the video below to begin your understanding of why Africa is now on the brink of Starvation and why there are forces who are working against Africa, who want Africans to die and want Africans portrayed as useless and brainless unable to feed themselves by deliberately handing countries to communists and propping up these dictators.... neatly serving the racists who WANT to believe this.

    Nigeria is not doing well, apart from big problems with Boko Haram and the massive influx of refugees that is on the horizon the economy is not doing as well as you portray
    Uncertain outlook for Nigerian economy
    https://africanbusinessmagazine.com/region/west-africa/uncertain-outlook-for-nigerian-economy/



    [​IMG]
     
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    Naw. He's under Putin's protection. Trump won't cross his boss.
     
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    Sth African blacks and Western Leftists did not want "home lands"
    America's issue was the heavy handed way Assad treated his own protestors.
    Can we "federate" America and Australia into separate states to stop political divisions?
     
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    Incorrect, the Zulus and many other tribes were more than happy with their homeland, in fact they still have their homeland Kwazulu Natal, many of the other tribes retained their homelands, like Lesotho and Swaziland, the only tribes who have no homeland are the whites (Transvaal and Orange Freestate are the land that belonged to the Boers,) and the coloureds - (the original inhabitants of South Africa and the true landowners - also the most persecuted minority group currently in South Africa where all minorities are persecuted.)

    The only blacks who did not want homelands were the ANC, the communists and they had the support of the Soviet Union the Globalists and Liberals in the west. Today South Africa is on the brink of starvation thanks to the communists, globalists and the western liberals,

    Apartheid was the perfect solution for South Africa, but because it is the antithesis of Globalism, the globalists smeared it with Segregation's brush, many people still believe that Apartheid means Segregation, what it actually means is separate development... Segregation was present in many British colonies also in the USA, but Apartheid - Separate Development - the homeland system, was only present in South Africa, because to exercise Separate Development you must give tribes their own land so they can rule over themselves. South Africa gave the tribes 50% of South Africa's land in 1948 when it brought in Separate Development.

    ps. if you don't believe me about the Zulus you can read about the conflict between the ANC and Inkatha (The Zulus political wing) before the end of Apartheid. The conflict were never resolved and only adds fuel to the many problems unresolved in the melting pot of disaster that is South Africa.
    Separating feuding tribes is the only road to peace... but peace is not what communists and globalists wanted.. so they used Liberals, the useful idiots and the media to reach their goals
     
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