US invasion of China.

Misquote. Fezzik was the giant. Vizzini said "Never get involved in a land war in Asia."

 

Oh please. There is a difference between mustard gas and nukes. Mustard gas soldiers and civilians die, and elite never cared about either. With nukes elite can lose everything. I should have said nukes instead of WMDs, so I guess I'll take the blame.

 

Every single one of those countries invaded territory held by a nuclear armed power. I'm disproving your assertion that Nukes somehow make a country invulnerable to conventional war.

 

which country invade a country that has nuke?? i haven't heard it.

there is a difference between destructive power between nuke vs gas. nuke can level an city, everything, and leave radiation for hundreds of years. the amount of gas canister needed for entire city is much larger compare to the size of few kiloton of nuke, it doesn't destroy all the building, power and other stuff, once gas is cleared, people can move in.

No country has invade a nuke capable country as yet

 

All five of those countries invaded the soveriegn territory of nuclear powers....I can't make it any more clear.

 

The 3 you must be referring to the Israeli war, and they didn't have nukes in the 50s. I know of no nuclear power Iraq ever invaded. And Argentina I can only think of the Falkland War, which is being disingenuous. It is not like Argentina attacked mainland Britain. I notice you moved the goal posts to "sovereign territory" LOL. I doubt USA would launch nukes over a Guam dispute, but they sure as hell would over a mainland invasion.

 

israel never annouce they have nuke, although most people include me belief they have. but they acquire the nuke much later in time after the war.
it really depend on the scale of invasion. a full scale invasion could easilly escalte to nuclear war. a limited conflict in south china sea or taiwan reduce that chance by few factors.

now if those country attack israel today, and push israel into a corner, then israel very likely to use nuke. but if israel is winning there is no point of using it.
if US invade china, and push china into a corner china will likely use it, i doubt US will use it first if we are winning.

 

Before the Chinese could be brought on their knees, the "predatory Yankees" may have to go down on their knees to invite the Russians into their home by selling back Alaska for a pittance or giving it to them as a gift for mutual cooperation.

Please refer to the following links:

1. Some Russians rethink Alaska sale
http://juneauempire.com/stories/101809/loc_506053019.shtml

2. Alaska was leased, not sold?
http://brothersgrimmandgorey.blogspot.com/2010/01/alaska-was-leased-not-sold.html

3. Alaska Purchase
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alaska_Purchase

 

I'm referring to the 1973 Yom Kippur War when Israel was believed to have as many as 10 nuclear weapons (fission).

Iraq committed forces to the Yom Kippur war.

Would China launch nukes over Taiwan or the South China Sea where it claims to own half the islands?

My point is that its silly to think Nuclear weapons make a country immune to conventional attack. They can certainly serve as a deterrent, but they're never a guarantee of safety.

 

That would never happen. You're pushing the line of conspiracy theory there.

 

And do you really think Pakistan or North Korea is going to start a nuclear war with the U.S.? China wouldn't want to start a nuclear war with the U.S. either. The only country willing to go for a nuclear war over invasion would be Russia, and I don't think they would even do it. You also have to look at how many nuclear weapons could actually reach the U.S. mainland, too. I haven't looked up any statistics on this, but I'd guess it is a lot less than the total amount of nuclear weapons a country has.

 

Unfortunately you were not around during the times of the American Civil War, otherwise you could have used your "skill in splitting" to help Confederate President Jefferson Davis split the Union into two. Then American and world history would be totally different, and 30 percent of all Southern white males aged 18–40 would not have perished.

Please refer to the following links:

THE CIVIL WAR: APRIL 12, 1861 – APRIL 9, 1865
http://kathmanduk2.wordpress.com/2011/04/07/the-civil-war-april-12-1861-april-9-1865-2/

Category:Massacres of the American Civil War
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Massacres_of_the_American_Civil_War

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oy2iDtq3MPs"]Union War Crimes - YouTube[/ame]

 

i think we all know a limited conflict will unlikely turn to nuclear. but the risk is greater than NOT involve in a war in the first place. so US will try not to attack a country with nuke, only if its necessary. in the case of china, US will try to do anything possible not to involve a war with china. once a war started, doesn't matter is limited war or not, it increase the chance of become bigger war, therefore increase the chance of nuclear exchange.

 

they don't have too, they just sell some dirty bomb to terrorists, hard to trace, easy to smuggle. NK is a dictatorship, so its hard to predict what happen if US invade NK. china could use nuke if its a full scale invasion, and china is losing, push them into a corner, anything can happen. even if there is 1 in thousand chance of using nuke, would US risk it, i guess depend on situation.

in a war you don't want to guess they might or might not use it. you have to prepare for the worst case.

 

My Dad told us eons ago that if we ever got into it with China, the first thing they'd do is surrender one million troops to inflict a serious economic and social burden on us. You can imagine what it would cost to house and administer this new American city. And you know they'd be constant trouble. The only alternative would be to exterminate them which would also play into the Chinese/judeo-communists' hands. Since they could then successfully depict us as reprehensible demons to the world.

Besides, China is already ruled by a "jewish" Fed-like banking mafia. This is the reason the world's been embroiled in war for the last 300 years - so the "jews" could take over every economy of the world. In fact, after the "jews" buttboy - the U.S. military - conquers Iran, Syria, Sudan, Cuba, and North Korea, the "jews" will FINALLY control EVERY ECONOMY ON EARTH.

China's economy was taken over in 1949. All REAL CHRISTIANS AND REAL AMERICAN CONSERVATIVES know this. If you don't, maybe you should contact the John Birch Society for more information on how you can become one of us. JBS, incidentally, is named after a Christian Patriot who died valiantly fighting the Red Chinese. Doesn't that make you feel ashamed since you've done nothing but help the judeo-communists take over America?

 

The South did what was right. Only the lowest common denominator still believes the Civil War was about abolishing slavery. Its purpose, clearly, was to destroy federalism, the equal partnership between the states and the federal government. To establish a communist-like centralized government. Otherwise, the Emancipation Proclamation would not have contained a clause stating areas not in rebellion could keep their slaves. Am I right? Again. Stop believing pop history.

 

Nothing like the smell of conspiracy theory in the morning.

 

If the south succeeded in seceding, wouldn't they become the federal government? Would it make any difference if the states are oppressing the people or the federal government is? Wouldn't the states become a centralized government if they secede?

 

Yes, I really don't know if there is a huge conspiracy going on, and I really don't care. I do kind of hope some of these conspiracy theories are true, because it means the government might actually be kind of smart. Otherwise, the only thing that makes sense is that the human species is completely retarded.

 

Apparently you totally miss the concept of "Sarcasm".

Personally, I do not believe we should ever go to war with China (or any other nation). Unless they attack us or an ally.

 

Wrong.

Israel has been nuclear since at least 1967, some think possibly as early as 1958. And they have been invaded multiple times since then.

India and Pakistan are both Nuclear powers, but they have had multiple conflicts for decades.

People say that over and over again, but it really is pointless. Because they fail to understand that nuclear weapons are not military weapons, but political weapons.

 

Thanks, is what I get for refreshing my memory on the quote from the Internet, withoug verification.

But the point is still valid however. Unless we or an ally is involved, we should never consider fighting there (or anywhere else).

 

I've read books on the Israeli/Arab wars of the 50's and 60's. Israel kicked the crap out of the Arabs before any plane was launched. Sorry. Preemptive attacks don't count as proof of invasion of a nuclear power. Epic fail. Especially when all of history is revisionist and anytime the TV talks it is a lie.

 

What about the 1973 Arab-Israeli War, commonly called the Yom-Kippur War? You seem to have some gaps in your knowledge of the wars back there.

In 1973, the Arabs launched a surprise attack on Israel. There was almost no warning, and Israel was only able to call up their Reserves a few hours before the attack started. There was no "pre-emptive strike" by Israel.

And several times during this invasion, it looked like Israel might fall. They were invaded from the South and East, with Egypt and Syria making big inroads into Israel itself. The Israeli leadership even gave preliminary orders to prepare their nuclear stockpile for use, because they were rapidly approaching their point of last resort.

On the night of 8 October 1973, Gold Meir ordered the preperation of Israeli nuclear forces, including 13 20 kt nuclear missiles and gravity bombs. It was when the US learned of this that they starteoffered to replace Israeli equipment losses, to prevent the situation from going "nuclear".

But if the attack was not blunted, there is no doubt that Israel would have started to use nukes. And even the Soviets were aware of the nuclear preperations, and even the Soviets almost got involved in what would have been a nuclear war.

http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/israel/nuke/farr.htm

This is a fairly well known event, and was the closest that Israel came to destruction. It was even novelized in the book The Sum Of All Fears. So if you think that the Arab-Israeli wars were all about victoious Israeli assalts smashing the attackers before the war even started, you need to do a lot more research.

And there is absolutely no question that Israel had nuclear weapons in 1973.

So to use your own words, "epic fail".

 

There would be nothing to gain from an invasion of China. Plus two countries packing nukes don't usually invade on another.