US taxpayers paid more to Israeli defense budget than Israelis

The recent 'conflict' (Zionist assasination, then murder), brought into the spotlight, the so called Iron Dome.

And, as usual, on one hand we have the Israeli spinmeisters assuring us how effective it was, while others cast some doubt on that, in terms of rockets/stopping them ratio, and that is with crude rockets, made from pipe and fertiliser.

Anyway, that is an aside. I tend to find, generally speaking, that you often cannot relate a thing to many Americans, in humanitarian terms. The media have trained their minds, whether they accept it or not, to see the death of a Jew as being more worthy of outrage, than that of a non Jew. Esp if that Jew is an 'Israeli'. I find that you need to speak to a lot of Americans on terms that mean something to them...financial.

There is nothing to focus the attention of the children of a plutocracy, than the idea that they are being hustled is likely to rile them more than just about anything else. And of COURSE they are being hustled. The working class and the middle class of the US, all of them are victims of the shake down.

However, having been marinated with invented reasons and excuses, which have been repeated over and over, to 'explain' how the hustle is really good for them, they often literally are not able to comprehend the hustle, even when it is laid right out, before their eyes.

Or another invented excuse will come, to somehow make the hustle sound legitimate, and 'good for Americans'.

To anyone outside of that bubble, it looks only WEIRD that Americans actually pay more toward the security of a supposedly first world and finanically independent states security, than the people of that state do themselves!!!

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"We must preserve ties with the United States. I believe this is a security necessity," he said.

In the past three years, he noted, US taxpayers have contributed more to the Israeli defense budget than Israeli taxpayers.

http://www.jpost.com/Headlines/Article.aspx?id=284637

Alison Weir then goes on to do a good piece about his statement here..

According to the report, Lieutenant-General Gabi Ashkenazi made the statement during a speech on September 11th. In it he emphasized: “We must preserve ties with the United States. I believe this is a security necessity.”

According to the newspaper the speech was at the Calcalist Conference, which appears to be an annual event in Tel Aviv sponsored by the Calcalist newspaper, an Israeli Hebrew-only daily financial newspaper. It is is part of the group that publishes Yedioth Ahronoth, the largest circulation newspaper in Israel.

American taxpayers give Israel over $3 billion per year (over $8 million per day), more than to any other nation, despite the fact that Israel is smaller than New Jersey and is in the top 30 richest countries in the world.

Per capita, Israelis receive $10,000 more U.S. tax money than average.

Some of the other top recipients of US tax money, Egypt and Jordan, were provided this assistance in return for diplomatic recognition of the Israeli state.

According to the Congressional Research Service, Israel is given this money in a lump sum at the beginning of the fiscal year. Americans then pay interest on money they have given to Israel, while Israel makes interest on it.

In recent years Israel has reported a lower unemployment rate than the US and a better account balance.

Ashkenazi’s statements are extremely significant, since this is the first time that an Israeli leader has pointed out that American taxpayers pay more to Israel’s defense budget than do Israelis.

If the costs of the Iraq war, which was largely pushed by Israel partisans in the Bush administration, were added into the equation, the American tax money on behalf of Israel would quite likely dwarf the amount paid by Israeli taxpayers.

Some top economists predict that the cost of the Iraq war will be $3 trillion.

Israel has a population of about 7 million people.

Today, Israel partisans are similarly pushing attacks on Iran.

Israel has frequently been accused of using American funds in violation of U.S. arms control laws.

Ashkenazi and War Crimes Accusations

IN 2010 Turkey issued an arrest warrant for Ashkenazi for Israeli forces’ killing of 9 civilians, including one who held American citizenship.

In 2008 a complaint was filed at the Hague accusing Ashkenazi of war crimes. Accusers stated:

On 27th December 2008, the suspect, Chief of Staff, ordered the Israeli army to attack densely populated areas in the Gaza Strip. For three weeks, 1,500 tons of bombs were dropped from the air on residential neighborhoods in Gaza and tens of thousands of artillery shells were fired from tanks. For 3 weeks, the army damaged and destroyed houses, schools, hospitals, infrastructure, water and electrical plants, killed more than 1,300 people, hundreds of them children, and injured about 5,300 people. Thousands of houses were bombed or shelled and 50,000 residents were made homeless, without shelter.

Prior to this, the suspect was part of a group, which implemented a siege on 1.5 million people in the Gaza Strip, denying them a regular supply of food, water, medicine, fuel and electricity for 18 months.

According to international law, it is absolutely prohibited to bomb residential areas in a way that interrupts the lives of civilians; to carry out executions without trial, to collectively punish; to destroy or damage hospitals, schools and homes. The prohibitions against collective punishment were enshrined in the Geneva Conventions after the behavior of the Nazis in Europe during World War II when they destroyed entire villages to punish residents for sheltering the resistance. 194 countries agree with the prohibitions of the Fourth Geneva Convention.

In December 2008, a complaint was filed in the Hague against the suspect, on suspicion that he had committed war crimes and crimes against humanity for ordering the siege of Gaza.

http://www.veteransnewsnow.com/2012...more-to-israeli-defense-budget-than-israelis/

 

LOL!

It is just NEVER enough, is it..??



Almost All Homeland Security Grants Go to Jewish Non-Profits

Jewish institutions throughout the United States will receive $9.7 million in federal anti-terrorism grants this year out of a total of $10 million allocated to not-for-profit institutions by the Department of Homeland Security.

That’s $6 million less than last year. But thanks to sharp cuts this year in the overall pool of money available through this program, the percentage of funds going to Jewish groups has nevertheless jumped substantially.

A full 97% of the available funds in the Non-Profit Security Grant Program for 2012 have been allocated to Jewish organizations, compared with 73% that went to Jewish groups from 2007 through 2010. In 2011, Jewish groups received about 80% of NSGP funds.

The NSGP has disproportionately benefited Jewish groups since 2005, when it was first instituted.

http://theintelhub.com/2012/07/14/almost-all-homeland-security-grants-go-to-jewish-non-profits/

 

Not surprised at all. It's time to kick them off my back.

 

Concise yet so true.

The shameful thing is that in a so called 'democracy', and for all the superficial difference between Mitt and Obama, both sides were on the same side, when it came to bending over to impress Israel.

To outsiders looking in, honest one's anyway, it just looks insane to see two men go to such massive lengths, to prove which one is most loyal, or will do more stuff for Israel.

Not the US, or most Americans. A tiny and foreign state, that often boasts that it is self sufficient..

For any middle class or working class American, who is not a Zionist Jew, to see a situation in which they pay more for the security of Zionist Jews, than Zionist Jews do, is just insane, and proof positive that SOMETHING is not right.

Little wonder that the internet shills are so keen to seethe when you say it, they seethe because it is true, and they do not wish people to dwell on the logic.

For there is none.

 

Are you familiar with this program? are you aware of the criteria for selection? are you familiar wht the application process? do you know what it is intended to do and why its with the homeland security department? can you explain why applications go thru a two step state and federal evaluation? are you familar on grant limits? or eligible urban areas? Oh no, of course not its just another stupid example of a waste of money on jews.

Jack maybe you shouldn't be so quick to jump at a superficial story like that because it has the appearance of some kind of jew love.

maybe you should read something.

http://www.fema.gov/pdf/government/grant/2012/fy12_nsgp_factsheet.pdf

A perfectly sound program to mitigate the most vulnerable non profits within designated higher risk urban areas, and a thoroughly public process of requesting funds and approval process.

 

the fact that Iron Dome was so effective against ballistic rockets 5 feet long and 8 inches wide with less than a couple minutes flight time is an enormous technical accomplishment. against guided missiles with far bigger radar profiles and longer flight path calculation times, the effectiveness should reach into the high 90%, A rather fantastic joint weapon development project that after its recent performance analysis is bound to be even better. this is one puppy that neither Israel nor the US will sell to others for quite a few years.

I luv it. victims of a shakedown. Perhaps the first time in history that the victim of a shakedown got more back than they got shook for.
Nothwithstanding the geo-political motivations of supporting the Israeli military, the balancing with saudi sales, and Egyptian humanitarian aid and military support, it is just not possible that america would use foreign aid for political purposes and that there would be absolutely no value that would accrue to America the donee for doing so.

75% of every dollar from the US is spent on US arms and armament. 25% can be spent in the Israeli domestic and other foreign markets as required. INcluded in this purchase agreement, is a technology exchange program as well as a joint weapon technology program. So, not only does this $3 billion make one helluva political statement in the region, it also yields many times a multiple in revenues and technological advancement. Particularly in the areas of advanced avionics - manned/unmanned, anti-missile missile technology and electronic counter measures.



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must be a misquote or, the state of Israel's books are cooked. Its pretty clear in both the USAID documents and Israeli budget reports how much money goes out and comes in. I'll tend to accept the published numbers from the government agencies than the singular quote of an individual.

now there is a news flash. are you sure he emphasized it?

Need more than what appears to be a misquote according to published evidence.

Oh look lets string some totally unrelated facts together. Yes of course blame the Iraqi II war on Israel. sttttttrtrrrrrrreeeeeeeeettttttttttccccccch.

you post this stuff with a straight face and you wonder why I call you on it?

 

Its a shame that you have such a simplistic perspective of the world and its workings.

I suggest you read up on the intricacies of international diplomacy, geo-political realpolitik, regional power dynamics, influence peddling and purchasing, raw capitalism (guns'n'oil), strategic positioning. then we can have a discussion about the relative alignment that both the President and the most recent candidate had on policy. although obama is a lot tougher on bibi than romney would have been.

SEEEEETTTTHHHEE..HHHHHEEEHHHHEEEHHHHEEEHHHHEEE!

OTOH, i must agree with you jack there certainly isn't any logic in your argument.

 

OK, assuming your assertions are even true, what this amounts to is that we are giving them money to buy our weapons. Might as well just look at it that we are giving them money and weapons, too. Oh, and a "technology exchange program". So we are ALSO giving them our superior technology. Now, what are we getting again?

 

this is so true
An Iron Dome that stopped barely 1/4 of the rockettes and people are being conned into thinking it will save them in a 'REAL' war not one with home made rockettes !

In fact because these systems are computerized one thing Hamas have learned and many others too from this is if you want to attack a target, all you do it fire a few $5 home made rockettes in the air and the ($63,000 a piece) missiles will be launched to intercept them and while they are busy doing that you launch the big missile you have to it's target and the system can't cope with too much information coming in and is busy trying to hit the little ones and boom! you hit your target!

But no doubt about it the Americans will carry on desperately trying to sell these useless systems.

Russia and China will have been watching very closely how the worlds 4th biggest army were defeated by a few guys with home made rockettes again!
and more importantly the US Iron Dome!

 

You are considered an "educated egyptian muslim" correct? that is there are many that are more ignorant than you....., Israel can never lose thats why there is no risk selling you western weapons, hell, you can have a nuke for all we care

 

LOL...even asking that question means you are 'murdering Jews in a holocaust', to Jonsa.

 

WTF do we continue giving Egypt $1.5bln/year, second only to Israel?

 

We treat our little gladiator well so that he will win using our toys and give us a great show in the arena called Middle East.

 

No idea.

Why do you think?

Also, consider the respective populations...

 

About 25% of the men cop out of being 'little gladiators', using some made up excuse.

Probably why they need so many little girls to do the fighting, the men keep pretending they have a mental illness..

 

This clearly proof that the USA is a true ally of Israel in their fight and struggle against Islamic extremism and terrorism.

At the same time the USA spend $billions and billions to Pakistan, Egypt, Libya, Lebanon, Palestinian etc. in which a large portion of those funds were misuse by the recipients to fund terrorist and this why Israel has the Iron Dome.

 

Bollox.

What is shows is how utterly fooled non Jewish Americans have been.

Paying more for their security than they do.

Make them pay for it themselves, how about that?

 

Why would we want to close down our live weapons R&D facility?

 

So, the Arabs are getting their butts kicked by girls?

 

Oh but I think you do have an excellent idea, jack. And the idea is no more.

 

Well to be fair, girls of IDF do no front line fighting... But the point is, Israel kick butt with less men, than they should have...

 

Children being murdered by indoctrinated girls, younger than my daughter.

Repulsive on both counts.

 

Yes, the program is designed to maintain a military advantage while at the same time, channelling that money back into american arms manufacture.

As for the technology exchange, it works both ways. that's what an "exchange" means. It is of mutual benefit. Israeli avionics have improved fighter performance, the iron dome system along with its precursor the partriot system were jointly developed and of course have been extensively tested in combat conditions by Israel, and electronic counter measures have long been at the forefront of avionic systems development in Israel, starting way back in 82 when the IDF shot down 90 syrian aircraft in the Bekka without a single loss.

 

brilliant riposte.

 

keep thinkiing like that. Its a reason you arabs haven't won a war in at least 100 years. You can't even win a war amongst yourselves.