Victory! Federal Court Blocks Joe Biden’s Vaccine Mandate For Healthcare Workers — In All 50 States!

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  1. garyd

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    According to NARAL and PP less than 8 percent of abortions involve health rape or incest all of which were permitted in 3/4s of states prior to Roe v wade
     
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    So many (presumptive) American citizens who don't give a flying **** about individual Liberties. It's absolutely sad and shows just how far our educational systems have fallen. I think getting jabbed is a good idea, I'm getting my 3rd dose here in a few minutes, but I don't presume to have the right to tell you that you must do the same. You're a free person, and I don't have that sort of authority. Neither does the President, or Congress for that matter.
     
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    So without the vaccine, we would be better off? Thats a new one on me
     
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    I'm truly sorry to hear that.
     
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    Just an observation - we seem to be about as well off now as we were exactly one year ago, the only difference being eight billion doses of these vaccines.
     
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    Bodily autonomy apparently only applies to the vaginated.

    Or pregnant men?
     
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    Great news.

    Let's go Brandon!
     
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    We have more deaths under Biden with the vaccine than we did without it under Trump
     
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    OK, so I got my third dose, as did my better half, voluntarily. I still don't think anybody should be told by a government who doesn't even have the authority to give orders in a manner like this, that they have to. My personal advice is to get it, but that's all it is... my personal advice.

    PS... Even though I'm disabled, stuck in a wheelchair, and have gawd only knows what bad health juju going on that nobody even has found yet, I still didn't wear a mask. So, neener neener. It was basically the first time I've been in a Wal-Mart (the small kind with nothing but groceries and a pharma) in 5 years. Give or take.
     
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    #RESIST: Short-Term Spending Deal in Peril as GOP Senators Demand an End to Vaccine Mandates.

    Biden's claim that he has the authority to nationally mandate vaccination is yet another of his demented delusions. His legal team loses constantly because Biden violates the constitution as casually as Hunter snorts dirt out of his carpet.

    Therefore, no point in funding Biden's attempted constitutional violations.

    "Several Senators have been adamant in not funding federal agencies responsible for enforcing Joe Biden’s vaccine mandates, and some are saying they are willing to shutdown the government to achieve that goal."

    Roll Call:
    Sensible bipartisan solution.

    Others would like to continue watching Demented Biden low brow legal team continue to get hammered in the courts. I think that may be the approach I favor. The may be letting Biden off the hook.
     
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    yep, and no one should force rape victims to have their rapists babies
     
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    I am not sure the counts of Obama or Trump, so no clue
     
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    IMO, some of the injected believe they couldn't possible catch or carry, and act as such. They are at a higher risk of doing so for that very reason. Most of the un-injected still take at least basic precautions, because they know they can catch and carry.

    Some posters put forth that Trump is responsible for the majority of deaths do to COVID, for as long as there are deaths. Even the most restrictive countries have deaths... there is just no educating minds like that when their hatred exceeds any level of common sense.
     
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    Which is less than 1% of all abortions. And NONE of them are forced to have the baby.
    This is your argument?
     
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    I don't care how many it is, no one should force rape victims to have their rapists babies

    do you agree?
     
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    Nobody ever has. Next
     
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    Agreed now what about the 95% of abortions in which rape wasn't involved?
     
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    95%. I feel you are being extremely generous.
     
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    Well it is based on NARALS Numbers
     
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    if you allow it for them, may as well allow it for everyone
     
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    Nope...
     
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    no reason not too
     
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    The pandemic, left unchecked, could easily posit an existential threat. But this I don't necessarily mean the Moon crashing into the earth, but a damage so great that the nation's productive capacity is greatly hindered, the nation thrown into chaos, leaving America vulnerable to foreign influenced destabilization which could have drastic consequences in the world's balances of power.

    The path to natural immunity for a nation would result in far more than 700,000 deaths. It's the entire point of vaccination. Only fringe doctors recommended that path.

    This idea that Trump's 'decisive action' was an act peculiar to Trump is absurd. Any president in the same situation would have fast tracked the vaccine. What the real test of competence is what Trump did during the pandemic, and on that, he failed miserably, and his incompetence resulted in hundreds of thousands of more deaths than would have otherwise occurred with a more competent president. I mean, he resisted testing, he propagated lies, he failed to warn Americans about the threat and downplayed it when he knew it was serious, a fact which he admitted to Bob Woodward, the journalist. On top of playing fast and loose with the facts, he made it much harder for states to acquire much needed things, like PPE, etc.
    https://www.vox.com/2020/4/4/21208122/ppe-distribution-trump-administration-states

    Proof of that fact was a study published in the Lancet, the prestigious journal where biology and medical science papers are published.

    https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)32545-9/fulltext

    Summation given in Forbes ( which is no liberal magazine).

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/tommyb...s-of-americans-lancet-report/?sh=6d52ea1977e8

    The Lancet launched the commission on Public Policy and Health in the Trump Era in April 2017, tasking the group with chronicling the administration’s actions.

    The commission's analysis found that 461,000 fewer Americans would have died in 2018 if the United States’ death rate had been equivalent to those of the other G-7 nations.

    The 49-page report also concludes that Trump’s “hostility” to environmental regulations (including the rollback of at least 84 separate environmental and workplace protections) significantly worsened pollution, resulting in more than 22,000 extra deaths in 2019 alone.

    According to the commission, Trump’s “appalling response” to the coronavirus pandemic, which included the politicization of masks and repudiation of science, “expedited the spread of Covid-19” in the U.S.

    The Trump Administration’s cuts to global health programs and public health agencies greatly hindered the country’s response to the pandemic, the report states, “causing tens of thousands of unnecessary deaths.

    Denial.
    Apparently 700,000 Americans didn't get the memo, they are dead.
    By 'your' I mean the data you posted. What else could I mean, you thought I meant something you owned?
    Besides,
    Doesn't matter where it came from, the fact remains, 700,000 people are dead and whatever percentage it is, it is significant.
    There is a policy consensus published by the NIH and CDC, who, in turn, advise the president.
    That has always been the goal post.
    Sorry, as in Sorry, you are wrong. Jeez, your inability to correctly interpret printed matter is telling, which means the odds are you are probably wrong on everything.
     
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  25. Bow To The Robots

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    TLDR.

    But I was able to pick three actual points out of this verbal diahrrea you pretend to be a cogent argument. See bold above.

    1. Trump's decisive action: I did not argue this was "unique to Trump" as you laughably assert. You made that up because you know your argument is crap, thus all you have is a pathetic straw man.
    2. The goalpost was scientific consensus, not "policy" consensus. Another straw man - because you know you have no argument. Science is not a democracy and it does not operate on consensus.
    3. Fallacy, argumentum ad hominem. This is the final evidence that even you don't believe the bullshit you're peddling. I am not the topic of this thread. Concession accepted.
     

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