Video shows Trump with associates tied to email controversy

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  1. tres borrachos

    tres borrachos Well-Known Member

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    Oh come on. You don't believe what a pro-Trump journalist says? Come on!

    Too bad. The Hill was once a good publication. Thanks for the reality on this article. I'll let the Trump fan nation keep following their leaders and wait for some evidence to come out of their really sad claims.
     
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  2. mdrobster

    mdrobster Well-Known Member

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    wrong, making terrorist threats is a crime, like yelling fire in a movie theatre
     
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    Obama trapped Donald Jr. to justify spying on Trump

    President Obama's team spied on Donald Trump's campaign using the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act of 1978 as a cover for their Watergate-style activities.

    We know this now thanks to the New York Times -- which has been used (quite willingly) by Team Obama to discredit President Trump.

    This explains the Donald Trump Jr. "expose" this week. The real criminal activity came from the Democratic Party.

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    On January 20, the Times reported:
    Wiretapped Data Used in Inquiry of Trump Aides

    This is what Nixon attempted to do in Watergate.

    Four years after his resignation in disgrace, Democrats legalized this by making FISA law, and they controlled both houses of Congress and the presidency.

    To wiretap an opponent, all you need do is get an excuse that some foreigner is involved.

    On March 4, President Trump complained on Twitter that Obama wiretapped him.

    The Fake News media mocked him.

    It was true, however.

    From the Times on April 17:
    Court Approved Wiretap on Trump Campaign Aide Over Russia Ties

    This weekend, the New York Times reported Donald Trump Jr. met with a Russian Honeypot at Trump Tower.

    It was a set-up

    From the Hill today:
    Exclusive: DOJ let Russian lawyer into US before she met with Trump team

    Replace Mueller with Republican special prosecutor and go after the real criminals: the Democratic Party.
     
  4. RP12

    RP12 Well-Known Member

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    Unreasonable demands and semantics is your game and its tiresome.
     
  5. tres borrachos

    tres borrachos Well-Known Member

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    Unreasonable demands. Now that's a good one!
     
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  6. AmericanNationalist

    AmericanNationalist Well-Known Member

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    Wrong example, but you get the gist. There's a reason they want suspects under oath. So it's not thrown out of court.
     
  7. RP12

    RP12 Well-Known Member

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    Truth hurts id suggest finding a stronger pain killer.
     
  8. tres borrachos

    tres borrachos Well-Known Member

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    Yes, the truth does hurt. And it hurts when it's pointed out to you that you have to back up claims. I'm not like the Trump supporters. I don't just blindly believe what the alt right tells me to believe. Sorry that hurts.
     
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    Who cleared her after her visa was denied.. Do you have any idea how few people can do such a thing?
     
  10. mdrobster

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    in the previous post, you states about making a terrorist threat
    here you go

    http://www.legalmatch.com/law-library/article/making-a-terrorist-threat.html
     
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  11. AmericanNationalist

    AmericanNationalist Well-Known Member

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    I already acknowledged it's the wrong example. But let's say someone accused me of wanting to rob a bank, pointing to a public statement I made as proof. Even if I were charged with conspiracy to commit robbery, it would be thrown out of court as inadmissible evidence.

    https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/inadmissible_evidence

    Linking this to Trump Jr Gate, if in fact someone was told to make a statement of 'I'll give you Russian info', the evidence would be deemed inadmissible.

    (And that'd be the least of their problems, but the most obvious one.)
     
  12. Professor Peabody

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    It's right there in the eMails. Mueller needs to investigate this "lead".
     
  13. mdrobster

    mdrobster Well-Known Member

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    Oh yeah, it's all there :)
     
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    PrincipleInvestment alleged that he Russian lawyer was a "threat to security" and has produced absolutely ZERO substantiation for his bogus allegation.

    And neither have you for that matter.
     
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    Little Donny jr's email is most definitely admissible evidence.
     
  16. Andrew Jackson

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    :roflol:

    Recycling ANCIENT news that does NOTHING to prove your point?

    You can't be serious. :roflol:
     
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    We need his ENTIRE Emails.

    And the ENTIRE Emails of Kushner, Manafort, Etc.
     
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  18. AmericanNationalist

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    Not if the person who emailed him was told to make that statement. It's an unsettling coincidence how a Russian lawyer gets a temporary visa, then overstays that visa, and is then able to contact Donny JR and make those statements.

    Just as the FBI had Carter Page as their informant, I wouldn't be surprised if this person were a double agent of some sorts as well.
     
  19. Derideo_Te

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    Yup!

    I suspect that there will be other evidence of collusion to be found in those emails and given what little Donny jr. provided they can no longer use the excuse that it would be a "fishing expedition". The SC now has enough to override that claim given that Manafort and Kushner were in the meeting and Golding said that he was going to email the BLOTUS's secretary. All of those emails are now relevant to the investigation and that is how a judge will rule IMO.

    The noose is tightening and it won't surprise me if the entire Trump clan ends up sitting in the dock eventually.
     
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    The email is admissible evidence of collusion irrespective of the origin of the content.

    The Russian lawyer is as much of a liar as the BLOTUS and his spawn. There is no reason whatsoever to believe their self serving canards.

    As far as temporary visas go that is not all that unusual. In this instance some lawyer probably made the claim that justice would be denied unless she was allowed to make the case for her client in a US court. The DoJ probably allowed that to go ahead and allow the court to make the appropriate ruling. What has NOT been substantiated by the extremist alt right is the utterly bogus allegation that she was a "security threat" to this nation.
     
  21. Same Issues

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    I agree, I hate to watch the standard we are developing with Trump at the helm. I am starting to fear whoever is next, they will have practically no rules or standards we can hold them to.
     
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    yes, trump and his supporters have opened the dungeon doors to see how far we the bottom can go
     

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