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Video Shows Ukrainian Plane Being Hit Over Iran

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by Cubed, Jan 9, 2020.

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  1. RP12

    RP12 Well-Known Member

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    Right outside of an airport..No.
     
    RP12, Jan 10, 2020
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    Trump had Soleimani killed ---- yes, I'm sure "rocket man Kim" absolutely did take notice.

    The fact that Trump didn't bomb Iran into a big crater or start a World War also shows he's got restraint. Yes, I'm sure other dictators took notice. This isn't old line-in-the-sand-just-kidding, will-you-be-my-friend-if-I-give-you-a-pallet-of-cash, America-hating, race-baiting, apologist, wishy washy wimpy, Obama they're dealing with anymore.
     
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  3. Darthcervantes

    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Lol..he's reacting exactly how terrorists want. You can't reach liberals with common sense. It was nice of you to try though
     
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    Iran was in the process of launching 22 missiles. I'm surprised there aren't MORE videos out there as everyone had time to get their phone out and start filming the launches.
     
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    drluggit Well-Known Member

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    So, for all those pearl clutching liberals, capt nice et al... Iran seems to have just committed a war crime. And yet, you folks still support them. Seriously?
     
    drluggit, Jan 10, 2020
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    I was just wondering about this very thing. If its determined 100% (I think its already 99%) that Iran did this, either by accident or intentionally, wouldn't that likely mean additional countries would be in full support of sanctions? Canada for sure, eh?
     
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  7. drluggit

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    I would think so. I assume other countries who lost citizens on the flight will want their retributions...
     
    drluggit, Jan 10, 2020
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  8. Eleuthera

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    For the independent thinker, the relevant question is "who fired the missile?"

    My bet is someone other than Iran fired the missile. Is it shoulder launched manpad, or something else?

    Whatever the media says is most often pure propaganda and disinformation.
     
    Eleuthera, Jan 10, 2020
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    They recovered part of the missile. It isn't a manpad or shoulder launch missile, so this mean it was an Iranian mobile launcher, so the responsibility falls on the Iranian 100%.
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    They showed you a picture of a wrecked missile. That proves nothing.
     
    Eleuthera, Jan 10, 2020
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  11. Capt Nice

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    No, trump didn't pull the trigger but had it not been for trump's made up b.s. lies those people would still be alive today.
     
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    Oh FFS.
    That's enough. Welcome to the loony bin, I have no time to waste with people who live in fantasy land.
     
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    My bet is that somebody associated with the guy firing the missile took the video.
     
    Eleuthera, Jan 10, 2020
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    Nor do you have time for people engaged in analytical thinking.

    But I already knew that.
     
    Eleuthera, Jan 10, 2020
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    From what I've read, there appear to be remnants of a Russian-made TOR surface-to-air missile at the crash site, that would have been launched from an SA-15 air defense system. These are old mobile Soviet-era systems that the Iranians have possessed for quite some time.

    If this is true, all signs point to the Iranians. Some people have speculated that a Russian crew may have been involved but I consider that unlikely.
     
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    I understand your argument, but that is still incidental. It is complete gross negligence on the Iranians military and civil air administrators. There are procedures that are used to avoid these exact scenarios, that practiced throughout the civilized world.
     
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    Absolutely. All commercial air traffic should have been grounded or at the very minimum, air space around launch sites made as no fly zones.
     
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    Which makes my statement true. Had trump not wagged the dog those people would still be alive today. end
     
    Capt Nice, Jan 10, 2020
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    It takes someone sick and beneath contempt to try and blame the US for something Iran did.
     
    Hoosier8, Jan 10, 2020
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    I don't blame the U.S. I blame the idiot in the White House and his cult.
     
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    Well, not surprising coming from the apologists for terrorists and criminals. It's always someone else's fault. Personal responsibility need not apply.
     
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    Who would this "cult" be and how they did convince Iran to shoot down their own passenger jet?
     
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    Anyone that claims that Trump made Iran shoot down it's own people are idiots.
     
    Hoosier8, Jan 10, 2020
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    No, anyone who would defend the "Death to America!" crowd in Tehran is a traitor.
     
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    100% in agreement, there is zero excuse for that. It is basic procedure. I could see maybe some of the operators were not properly trained, but that would filter up to the commanders and administrators. If that were the case due to training, then the gross negligence is even worse. Ukraine and Canada will be suing, on behalf of the families.
     
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