Virginia governor to announce removal of Lee statue

The Confedercy was an illegal cabal which was not recognized by any foreign or at least not any country of importance.

 

What does the "E" stand for?

 

The statues themselves were largely erected as pandering. Lee was against Civil War monuments of any kind. Maybe we should respect his wishes.

 

I am beginning to think it might be better if the Chinese virus had a 100% mortality rate and mother nature starts all over. God, I am sick of virtue signaling by those infected with white guilt.

 

Edward... Robert Edward Lee

Although they might just spring for a whole new plaque..

Maybe someday, we'll tell our grandchildren how General Trump led his troops to Pennsylvania in June 1863 to fight the Fake News, Enemy of the People, Union.. And defeating evil President Pelosi in the process...

 

Well, that is true. Sort of.

Both England and France strongly considered joining the war, on the side of the Confederacy.

In the end, however, both declined, as they simply did not wish to become engaged in another war.

 

Yet, judging by your death fantasy here, you are engaging in an even stronger example of virtue signaling, just focused on a different political bias.

 

You are correct. Re-writing history is a democrat owned trait and looking at the destruction of our once great cities by do-gooder politicians, most of them started by winning an election to their local school board.

 

No, not at all. We are reaching the point where humanity is just a pain in Mothers Earths' ass and she will provide the appropriate measures to cleanse herself.

 

Congrats on getting a statue removed. Hope you all feel special now and that the world is a better place now with the removal of an inanimate object

 

Sorry, sounds like the exact same sort of "virtue signaling" to me. Actually, it is even more virtue signaling that what you criticize. You are expressing guilt for your entire species, not just your race.

 

Shocking coming from Ole blackface himself. Anything to get that picture off the minds I guess.

 

Not so up on literature I see.

 

Or maybe he actually read the book and, therefore, understands you comment is complete nonsense.

 

The Confederate states succeed from the Union like several states are talking about now. They were a separate country. They did not try to over throw the United States government they just wanted to more part of it. Southerners defended their homes and their lands and their property from destruction and it's citizens from death. We have every right to memorialize those who mounted that defense from foriegn invaders.

 

Well, this is somewhat true.

Lee wrote that it would be wiser "not to keep open the sores of the war" by erecting such monuments.

But can you honestly say--honestly, now--that your opposition to these monuments is not at all influenced by your feelings about the Confederacy--and, by extension, about General Lee?

 

The Confederate states rebelled against the US to preserve slavery. Then they initiated violence while trying to steal US property. The primary "property" that the Confederates were concerned about were their slaves. No one is denying your right to memorialize them anyway. You still have that right.

 

That is demonstrably false considering that Lincoln told the southern states they could preserve slavery if they would not seceed from the union.

 

Very few Americans--if any--would argue in favor of slavery in 2020. But it is quite unfair to impose twenty-first-century ethics upon nineteenth-century people.

The fact is that we abolished slavery long before many other countries did so.

And the Civil War (or "War Between the States") was not really about slavery until Lincoln made it precisely that, with the Emancipation Proclamation in September of 1862 (which was not really grounded in moral outrage; that is evidenced by the fact that it applied only to those states that were "in rebellion" against the United States government--and therefore, was merely punitive in nature).

 

This is true. Prior to the Emancipation Proclamation Lincoln had advocated for the Corwin Amendment to the Constitution. In a nutshell it said that if the southern states would continue to pay their taxes the federal government wouldn't invade and would leave them alone. That was Lincoln’s message. Not only did he not insist they free their slaves, he wrote each of the Southern governors promising his support for the Corwin Amendment to the Constitution, which would guarantee the “rights” of the slaveholding states to continue the institution in perpetuity.

 

This right here is one of the most common things I see lefties do and they do it ALL THE DAMN TIME.

The riots are caused by the rioters. When you willingly engage in criminal activity, THAT'S ON YOU and nobody else.

 

History is being erased as we speak. This is what communists do.

 

Even if this weren't horse ****, and it is, it still doesn't matter. It wasn't just that the Confederacy PRACTICED slavery . . . slavery was their cornerstone. It was their core philosophy. It was THE REASON they rebelled against the US.

Before some and not before others. Regardless, however, the "we" in your statement is the US. The Confederacy rebelled against the US because they FEARED the abolishment of slavery.

I never said anything about the Civil War being about slavery. I said the Confederacy was about slavery and that secession was about slavery. That was true well before the Emancipation Proclamation.

The Confederate states, regardless of what you believe, believed that the US was on a path of abolition. The US had just elected a President from a new party that was explicitly anti-slavery. Whatever the US's motivations were, the Confederacy's primary motive was the perseveration of slavery, which they feared the US would end.

 

Relocating or removing a statue does nothing to "erase history." Meanwhile we have Confederate apologist who ACTUALLY want to erase history.

 

The Confederate states succeeded as several states are proposing now. Slavery was legal in the United States when they succeeded, all during the war and after the war. The United States invaded the Confederacy to overthrow that nation and force them back into the United States with their slavery intact. Those States which for that period of time were under another flag, a different country have every legitimate right to honor those sons and daughters who defend against that invasion and destruction was to the homes and property of NON-slavers owners without discretion and an insult to that heritage to destroy them.