Virginia mom who survived Maoist China says DOJ, school board association use ‘communist tactics’

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  1. Condor060

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    Why is it the left just assumes out of thin air only the extreme right disagrees with their premises?
    They claim only Trump supporters are anti vaxxers without even having the knowledge that 65% of Blacks a Latinos are also non vaxxers.
    Are all those other races raising hell with the school boards now Trump supporters and RW extremists?

    Kind of like Bidens 38% approval rating. Is that all RW extremist as well? Seems to me for a guy who supposedly got 80 million votes, he must have a lot of Democrats that don't like him or have a huge amount of buyers remorse.
    And these out of thin air RW extremist claims aren't holding water anymore. You should get out a bit more.
    Seems your running out or RW excuses.
     
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    The author of the 1619 project says it is not. No doubt you have convinced yourself that you are better qualified to make that assessment than the author.
     
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    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

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    What is made up?

    De Blasio to Phase Out N.Y.C. Gifted and Talented Program
    The mayor unveiled a plan to replace the highly selective program, which has become a glaring symbol of segregation in New York City public schools, for incoming students.
    De Blasio to Phase Out N.Y.C. Gifted and Talented Program - The New York Times (nytimes.com)

    “We have a hard time recognizing that racial discrimination is the sole cause of racial disparities in this country and in the world at large.”

    “When I see racial disparities, I see racism.”

    Kendi
     
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    grapeape Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I showed you the quote AND the definition of the word !!!

    FFS man, you just keep making things up
     
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    "CRT holds that ANY racial disparity is systemic racism" - Dixon76710

    This is a program that one person makes a decision on you're holding CRT accountable to that ? You're making things up again to fit your agenda.

    De Blasio making a policy on something has absolutely nothing to do with CRT ?

    I eagerly await your next post claiming that Joe Biden being VP to Barack Obama is CRT run amok
     
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    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

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    None of which contradicted anything I said, soooooo not sure of your point

    Care to point out what you think was made up?........if you can.
     
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    Really? Then using your definition Trump's administration and his ideology was communist. If that is the best you can come up with, stunted, simplistic, inaccurate stereotyping of "communism" you need to try get out and actually go visit North Korea, or China or Russia. You think they teach critical race theory? You think they advocate the politically correct agenda you hate so much? Really?

    Many of us do not like and disagree with critical race theory and specific politically correct ideology but it sure as hell is not communism any more than it is any other ism. Its called ideology. Ideology by itself is not communistic, democratic, fascist or any other simplistic label you want to give it. You have to analyze the entire context of how its being used. There is nothing communal about the ideology that you and I hate called critical theory. In fact its about people LIKE YOU or me or anyone else who thinks in extremes and can't imagine any opinion but their own about anything.

    When any of us become rigid in our views, like you, stereotyping people with negative labels of generalization, then the **** flies.

    Good day comrade.

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    Kendi is one of the most popular writers among the CRT advocates. And the belief that ANY racial disparity that negatively effects blacks is by definition systemic racism is one of the fundamental beliefs of CRT.

    ????? Literally the application of CRT to government policy.
     
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    It is neo marxism just like all of critical theory.

    "Modern industrial societies have furthermore created an "affluent society", which in increasing comfort have disguised the exploitative nature of the system, and have therefore strengthened means of domination and control. Modern "affluent society" therefore limits opportunities for political revolution against capitalism....."

    "Max Horkheimer first defined critical theory (German: Kritische Theorie) in his 1937 essay "Traditional and Critical Theory", as a social theory oriented toward critiquing and changing society as a whole, in contrast to traditional theory oriented only toward understanding or explaining it. Wanting to distinguish critical theory as a radical, emancipatory form of Marxist philosophy,"
     
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    This smashed-mouth authoritarianism has taken deep root in academia: "THE NEW DIVERSITY AND INCLUSIVENESS LOOK AN AWFUL LOT LIKE THE OLD CONFORMITY": Teaching while pro-Trump: Educator in training alleges political views led to his firing.

    https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/479432/

    “Nick was on his way to a promising career until word broke out that he was a Republican,” noting Ratekin did not talk of his political views in the classroom but apparently had a “Keep America Great” bumper sticker."

    "For this, he was told being a Trump supporter is “inappropriate” and “deplorable.”"

    File suit.
     
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    FFS pointing out that races tend to gather by race, is not racism. Good lord man. Pointing out what is happening is not racism.


    Changing a program is now racism ?

    FFS…..
     
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    I never claimed it was. Scampering for refuge in your next strawman?

    No, changing a program solely because it has a disparate racial impact is application of CRT.
     
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    That wasn't the sole reason it was changed……

    CRT is the study of these very things, NOT the practice of them
     
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    Trump actually did have some socialist ideals but I wouldn’t say communist. What did Trump do that fits the bill for my definition of communism?
     
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    Yeah it is. Political stuff shouldn’t even be taught in schools. Communism has always indoctrinated their youth. That’s exactly what the left seems to do
     
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    " The only remedy to past discrimination is present discrimination. The only remedy to present discrimination is future discrimination." Kendi
     
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    Oh FFS…..you dont address what I said, and you move the goalposts yet again

    have a nice day
     
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    DIRECTLY contradicts what you said.
     
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    Indoctrination of anyone including children is not specific to communists. How do you teach history without "political stuff"? You respond with simplistic, extremist poorly thought out responses. Save it for someone else. Thanks.
     
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    Max Horkheimer first defined critical theory (German: Kritische Theorie) in his 1937 essay "Traditional and Critical Theory", as a social theory oriented toward critiquing and changing society as a whole, in contrast to traditional theory oriented only toward understanding or explaining it. Wanting to distinguish critical theory as a radical, emancipatory form of Marxist philosophy,....
    Critical theory - Wikipedia

    Traditional social theories are education. Critical theory is indoctrination intended to change society
     
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    That's nice. I never stated certain theories lumped under critical theory came from people who were also supportive of Marxist theories. I asked how is indoctrination of children limited to communists. How does one teach history without "political stuff".

    Thanks for the Wiki recitation. but you deliberately skipped the introductory sentence in your recitation....

    "Critical theory is any approach to social philosophy that focuses on reflective assessment and critique of society and culture in order to reveal and challenge power structures."

    Critical theory is not limited to Marxist theory. To suggest it is, like suggesting indoctrination of children is limited to communists or history can be taught without reference to "political stuff" is just out and out ridiculous.
     
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    Just as communism was the ultimate goal of Marxist, communism is the ultimate goal of neo marxist.

    "Marcuse champions non-integrated forces of minorities, outsiders, and radical intelligentsia, attempting to nourish oppositional thought and behavior through promoting radical thinking and opposition. ....."

    "The intelligentsia is a status class of educated people engaged in the complex mental labours that critique, guide, and lead in shaping the culture and politics of their society."......

    "Modern industrial societies have furthermore created an "affluent society", which in increasing comfort have disguised the exploitative nature of the system, and have therefore strengthened means of domination and control. Modern "affluent society" therefore limits opportunities for political revolution against capitalism....."

    Neo marxist believe Karl was wrong. Communism wont naturally evolve as he predicted but they instead must first indoctrinate the people to their beliefs, to "nourish oppositional thought and behavior through promoting radical thinking and opposition."

    Its taken them 50 years but their ideology is firmly planted in our public education. "for political revolution against capitalism".
     
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    You removed some quotes out of their context and cut and paste them in a disjointed manner that makes no sense. But hey thanks.

    It appears you have a fixation with the word "indoctrinate" being specific to neo communists at this point.

    However need I remind you the definition and word is a general one NOT specific to Marxism or communism or any other political ideology and simply means to teach someone to accept a belief " uncritically". "Uncritically" refers to accepting a belief without consideration as to its merit or veracity-it means simply accepting or agreeing with something without questioning it.

    So you continue to avoid the obvious point you can not respond to that I made, and that i s that people who blindly accept values are not simply specific to communists, neo Marxists, Maoists or anyone else.

    Dixon have a nice day. Here let me conclude with this which one below is a communist, neo communist, democrat, republican, Christian, homosexual, facist. He just pick one.

    [​IMG]Is that you or me right in front....
     
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    No one is claiming that indoctrination is specific to communism. You can let go of the strawman.
     
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    JOE did and I responded to it. Then you began responding to me. Further the fact you disagree with me does not make what I say a strawman argument any more then your responses are. It is the most over used accusation on any forum by people who have no clue how to debate. Move on. Save your communist cut and pastes for someone else.
     

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