Vladimir Putin became the most popular leader in the world

Thank you. Is this a new party in Greece? I will check them out.

fair enough. I did actually skim something on that some time ago but thought it might just be an opinion piece as the same thoughts were there when they were arrested. I cannot remember where I read about them being financially supported by Russia but for a little party that had very little they suddenly seemed to get a lot of money.

yes I pretty much know this from previous conversations but you were not giving that impression as I have felt before with you. It sounds like you are giving excuses, maybe just the environment you live in.

It maybe comes into topic with the reason for Putin being popular in the UK being the mutual support of those parties with Russia. I believe there is a serious rise in the far right certainly in Britain and I have never seen it here before. It is actually in some ways more subtle and the people might not even know that was where they were moving or bit by bit being directed. A couple of years or so ago a guardian survey found that a big majority, not sure if it was just England, but a big majority would vote for an authoritarian regime provided it was not violent. That is now UKIP and the Conservatives trying to outdo them.

It is the way you put things, possibly because English is not your first language. I did not argue against what you said in your post but more your response to mine. However on your summary I would say it is mainly England not Britain which is against the EU and more people who do not know what it is about. It is the kick all for everything wrong in the UK and does seem to have links to English Nationalism.

I am not closed to a new financial model.

 

Actually, Krunk,I wrote, " I wish I had a five-dollar bill for every equally unscientific poll that has told us through the years that the vast majority of people in the world just LOVE Barack Obama". You obviously missed the point, which was exactly what you intended to do....

Ever notice how at some point every Obama apologist must drag up the ghost of "W" Bush in order to make their Messiah look "good"...? So, Putin's some kind of dictator, but Obama is a paragon of Constitutional and lawful processes and decorum? Then why did your marvelous President Transparency dictate less than three months ago that henceforth he would rule with "a pen and a phone"?

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2014...y-obama-plans-to-rule-america-with-pen-phone/
http://washington.cbslocal.com/2014...ve-actions-ive-got-a-pen-and-ive-got-a-phone/
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/201...ive-action-ive-got-a-pen-and-ive-got-a-phone/

I'm sure Vladski has a pen and a phone, too, but he's some kind of "HITLER" but Obama is not...? Hypocrite! At least Putin loves his country and he devotes himself to love of Russia and Russians! All Obama does is divide America and grind working-class, tax-paying Americans underfoot to court the votes of socialists and parasties.

Here's a "math" problem that Kiev must face -- how to pay Russia the TWO BILLION DOLLARS it owes for natural gas that was already delivered and consumed. I guess America and the EU will have to take up a collection to bail Kiev out. And you can bet this won't be the last time.... (Hey, Germany! Meet your new "Greece"!)

Perfect example! Putin would not tolerate Islamo-Nazis to take over Chechnya, so he's a "brutal dictator". So, as we saw so clearly last year in Boston, these monsters come over here easily because, after all, as far as the Obama regime is concerned, we throw open the doors to every kind of scum and trash the world washes up on our shores. Disease is disease -- no matter whose "body" it infects. The obvious object-lesson -- Putin won't tolerate the infection of Russia, but Obama, who quite obviously hates the United States, welcomes it!

 

The world is largely liberal and liberals are easily fooled by nut jobs like Putin.

 

Our corporate media decided now to change the story, so it is not the U.S. ignoring Russia's warnings about terrorists, but it's Russia that ignored our requests about terrorists. Anyway from what I recalled the Boston bombers were approached by the CIA to work for them in Chechnya. Uhhh! What are we doing in Chechnya anyway?

 

Well spotted. I picked up on that too. Also, why would Russia foment this 'terrorism' given that Ukraine is likely to elect a Putin-friendly government at the end of May?

 

Oh my gosh, don't tell me Putin is now financing 'nationalist parties', while denouncing them in Ukraine? I can't believe it, what a monster of deception he is, why he probably stole that plane, that's why it can't be found. Have they searched Siberia yet? It's probably under all that snow? Hmmm! I wonder if there's an underground city, maybe with plane facilities...one never knows with Vlad the cad.

 

why in God's name would Ukraine elect a Putin-friendly govt?????

its like Czechoslovakia electing a Hitler-friendly govt. in 1939.

 

And I am amazed how you berate him while he is very kind and friendly to you Jews!! His only fault might be that he hasn't handed over the reigns to the Jews yet... unlike the situation in Washington.

 

They certainly are beating the war drums, could it be so Iran would be left isolated at the dirt cheap price of European lives?

 

Try this again and I will report you. You surely are aware of the long courtship between European Far Right and Russia. Russia likes the far right because they want to destroy the EU are anti gay and would like him, like a cultural change in Europe. Europe living on traditional cultural lines. That is heterosexual relationships only, going to church and getting our countries nice and white. Just I think what you yourself are after. You started a thread on it so why are you now being such a troll. Do you not understand what you are talking about? Do you have no knowledge of European Politics - probably not.

Bye the way are you american or russian? I noticed in one of your other posts, can't find it now that you claimed that Regan tried so hard to help Gorbachev. What a load of nonsense. He made the situation almost impossible. Unknown to you the neo con's had got started and filled his mind - which we later found out was extremely ineffective anyway doe to have Alzheimer's. He could not have dragged the situation on for longer and been less helpful.

Do a bit of searching and find the relationship between Russia and the European Far Right and stop trolling.

 

It seems the U.S. and the E.U. have miscalculated everything. I couldn't believe it when after Crimea declared its independence and held a referendum to unite with Russia, that our foreign relations department thought Putin was posturing. I mean do they have any idea of the situation in that part of the world, and how necessary Crimea is to Russia?

Did they really think that Russia would have allowed any part of Ukraine to become part of Nato and especially the Crimea when it controls its fleet in the Mediterranean...A fleet that it has been building up in the past two years? Also haven't they realized yet that Putin doesn't posture? Are they nuts?

By the same token they are miscalculating everything in Eastern and Southern Ukraine. The pro Russians want a referendum not to unite with Russia, but to federalize Ukraine so that the West can form its own trade relations with the countries it wants to, and the East can continue their trade relations with Russia. It was these trade relations that had Yanukovich turn away from the E.U., because the economic loss to Ukraine would have been immense.

The Junta in Kiev is reacting through fear that Russia wants to split the country, and Ukraine is economically dependent on that part of the country. The Western part is very poor, but instead of thinking rationally and trusting Russia and its intent, it's reacting as irrationally as Poland and Nato with their arms build up in Eastern Europe. By doing so they are provoking Russia and creating the very situation they fear.

Anyway this is how I see it.

 

Are you talking about the Boston marathon fiasco? Those two brothers were no terrorists. We had a thread going about this and there was lots of evidence shown that it was a charade by the US. A total fake.

 

I know. This is if you stick to the official version. And believe Chechen trace. After all, the forum believe that the U.S. government and the media U.S. do not lie.

 

Homosexuality is not a mental disorder.
Drugs are used in every country and the President hasn't authorized the use of drugs (marijuana).
Of course the FSS doesn't spy on russian citizens.

Putin is the quasi dictator.

Perhaps indifference? Perhaps collusion? Perhaps watching RT?

http://www.academia.edu/979916/The_Russian_media_under_Putin_and_Medvedev_Controlled_media_in_an_authoritarian_system

http://www.hrw.org/news/2014/03/23/russia-halt-orders-block-online-media

http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/features/2014/03/russia-independent-media-face-crackdown-ukraine-2014320133346526434.html

http://elitedaily.com/news/world/dont-mess-with-the-president-putin-critic-finds-200-pound-giant-wooden-dick-on-the-hood-of-his-car/

does the name khodorkovsky ring a bell?

Is your government the only one in the world that doesn't engage in propaganda?

I prefer witty.

I have no doubt you know way more about Russia than I do. But as for knowing what is going on, there seems to be a few gaps in your knowledge.

 

Yes so much so that all you can muster is this lame response.

 

They are actually mad at Obama for not moving fast enough and bomb Iran.
"...dirt cheap price of European lives?" Not quite sure what you mean by that. Please, just a wee explanation.

 

amazingly inane interpretation of political realities.

Obama has limited power. He isn't dictatorial, he must answer to congress and the courts. Executive Orders are part of a Presidents tool kit to get his job done and every President has used them. so this stupid over the top exaggeration about Obama the dictator is nothing more than playing up to the ignorance of some citizens about how their government works.

Its funny how the right views its legislative obstructionism, their devisive rhetoric, their attempts to delegitimize the president, their witch hunting. etc is all about uniting america.

 

I see, you meant the official version.
There are many known instances where the people were lied to...especially in the USA.
Here is an article by Craig Roberts:

The US Government Stands Revealed to the World as a Collection of War Criminals and Liars
...The Obama regime’s lies are so transparent and blatant that the cautious, diplomatic President Putin of Russia lost his patience and stated the fact that we all already know: John Kerry is a liar. Putin said: “This was very unpleasant and surprising for me. We talk to them [the Americans], and we assume they are decent people, but he [Kerry] is lying and he knows that he is lying. This is sad.”

Keep reading here:
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article36117.htm
and here:
http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/201...d-as-a-collection-of-war-criminals-and-liars/

This problem of untruthfulness could very well be due to the fact that Americans are under the total control of a foreign force.

 

I am not a jew.

But thank you for showing me your true colours.

 

This is a result of lack of proper education in America in history and culture of people beyond the Americas. Unlike USA, EU knew very well what they were doing. They wanted new successes in their expansion of NATO, simply stupidity of their leaders. They are not smarter then their Maidan intruders. Some do not understand clearly enough that Germany and Russia are more different then Ukraine and Russia.

 

Because they narrowly elected one prior to the coup that ousted it. Ukraine is politically split down the middle. Didn't you know that?

 

yes, between people that love Ukraine and people that hate Ukraine.

 

These polls are very suspect. However here is another one that has him at 16th.

http://en.classora.com/reports/q98615/who-are-todays-most-popular-world-leaders

Definitely ahead of Obama who is at 46.

I doubt the accuracy of any of this though, and the inane speculation is not impressive.

 

Yes, I know. What's your point?

 

I fully agree with you. I do not need proof. I write because the forum, many believe in exceptional honesty Western media and governments. In order to expose the lies. If a terrorist attack in Boston made ​​the Chechens - means the U.S. government is harboring terrorists. If a terrorist attack in Boston made not Chechens - means the U.S. government is lying and hiding the real terrorists.