Waging A Real War On Christmas/Synchronized Hyperspace Event (S.H.E.)

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    Also, I want to point out that a lot of people talk about peace in the Middle East, but then they act like Islam is the only thing out there, and like there are only 2 branches of Islam.

    There are branches of Islam that are ancient. They are just Islamic now because they follow Islamic law. Islam spread first as a legal practice, where people who were not Muslim would pay taxes.

    Here is a link to a group called the "Druze", they are considered a sect of Islam, but they practice things that go back all the way to Ancient Greek tradition. They are accepting of all religions and are willing to integrate into whatever religion takes over there people. This religion and the Yizidi religions are the type of things we should be focusing on. Shia + Druze is a much better deal than Sunni + Shia.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Druze

    And if we can get something going like Shia + Druze + Yazidi +Bahai (Unity Religion) +Sunni

    And if we would learn about things like "Sabians" it would make a lot more SENSE to get the people living in the middle east to get along with each other.
     
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    Historically...whether it be the Middle East or Europe of Spain during the Inquisition it is obviously apparent that Religious Beliefs and Ideology are responsible for more deaths in History than anything else.

    Religion has ALWAYS been used a a SYSTEM OF CONTROL.

    Time to get rid of it.

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    Sorry for talking about all the Abrahamic type religions, but it is Halloween and everyone in America likes to think of "Demons" and stuff on Halloween, since we are all brainwashed Christian from birth. But that doesn't mean that the "Demon" stuff can't be fun to learn about instead of evil.

    Here is an interesting religion in the middle east. Mandaeism. They revere Adam, Abel, Seth, Enosh, Noah, Shem, Aram and especially John theBaptist, but reject Abraham, Moses and Jesus of Nazareth. So they are pretty much a weird version of Judaism with no Moses or Abraham.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandaeism

    Even Jesus believed John the Baptist was the savior, so these people are more like what Christians were MEANT to be. They reject Moses and Abraham, kind of like Jesus did by rejecting the temples. And they revere John the Baptist, who Jesus thought was the Christ, until the Romans chopped off John's head and all the Christians were like "Let's follow Jesus now" the Mandaeists are more like it would have been if his head had not been chopped of though.
     
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    Too all Christians:

    The first time you asked what God was and you were like 5 or 10, what did someone tell you? They pointed at the sky right? And maybe at their heart? And now you think that there are only 3 religions in the world, and that they all come from Abraham.
     
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    There are versions of Christianity that carry ACTUAL ancient tradition, instead of Roman Church books. It is called "Gnosticism".
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gnosticism

    Most Christians will automatically discredit Gnosticism because they accept the newer texts known as the "Nag Hammadi Codex", but they don't only accept the newer texts, but they also accept more ancient traditions. If you look up "The Ogdoad", Gnosticism is the only Christian tradition that still has it. All the other Christians think that they have a book about magic and how to hide from evil, but Gnostics still consider "Wisdom" to be the Goddess of everything, and recognize the "Planets" in the "Heavens" instead of the "Father".

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ogdoad#In_Gnosticism
     
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    Actually.....even as a small child I really did not believe in Religion.

    No logic to it and it did not exist in Universal Physical Laws.

    I believe in Spirituality and this is something that Science at least has a few theories about.

    But a GOD.....if existing....is not going to be anything like any religious text might describe.

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    Since it is Halloween and I am talking about Christian tradition and people that accepted faiths that took over and stuff. You can probably see how different religions pretty much easily mixed throughout history. Imagine if ISIS came to your neighborhood and you lived in Syria. Your son or daughter might join ISIS in order to keep the family safe. It happened with Nazis, it happened with the Islamic waves and it happened during the Christian Crusades. The old religions would just hide their tradition in the new tradition.

    This is why Catholics pray to Mary, this started in Egypt with the cult of ISIS, they converted to Christianity and they liked to worship the "Mother". Similar to why you put a Tree up and watch movies of Fat men in red coats to celebrate Jesus' birth. It's all just people hiding old traditions with new traditions.

    So kinda got off topic there, but since it is Halloween I am going to talk about the Christian group in Ancient times known as "The Knights Templar" and there strange "Idol" known as Baphomet.

    The Knights Templar were basically like the Mob. They did favors for people in exchange for favors, usually involving taking something from someone else. They ran banks, feudal cities and woodlands all over Europe and believed in the power of things like "the Holy Grail" and "The Spear of Destiny" and "The Stone of Scone", some groups still hold these items to be important today.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knights_Templar

    The Knights Templar were strange in a way, because they claimed Jesus and spread his name, but they had an Idol known as "Baphomet" who supposedly appeared in the form of a Black Cat or a Disembodied Head.

    Baphomet contains all kinds of ancient symbols. Baphomet is both a man and a woman, and a goat. So Baphomet contains everything from Pashupati to Venus. He has a torch or flame on his head, which represents the Sun God. He has the 5 pointed star which represents Sirius, which is the star "behind the sun". And it seems as if they stole the whole idea from the Egyptian God Banebdjedet who was associated with Rams. And the word for "Ram" and the word for "Soul" are the same in Ancient Egypt, so that is a strange place for the Christian knights to choose to connect themselves to in ancient Egypt.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banebdjedet
     
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    I returned from the Middle East not too long ago and as my Team and I were there and had completed a successful JOB and because we were asked to stay and do another JOB specific to degrading the ISIS....we agreed to stay on and I can tell you first hand the ISIS is a group constructed by some very hidden and shady Leadership that does not show itself.

    The ISIS was a group we KNEW to be on the rise and because no matter what we did we could not get the Shiite Iraqi Leader to step down as he against our warnings purged all Sunni Iraqi Military Leaders from the Iraqi Military as well he purged all local Sunni Iraqi Local and National Leadershi from Government....we used the ISIS as a way to get him removed from power and he did step down.

    But then we waited too long to attack the ISIS which really is no more than 18,000 Men who are not really a cohesive fighting force but they are so spread out they cause murderous attrocities in Iraq and Syria.

    Most of the members of the ISIS are released Criminals, Mental Patients and Sociopaths hell bent upon causing as much death and destruction as possible.

    We degraded their numbers easily until I pulled the plug.

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    And since I mentioned Egyptian tradition being spread into other traditions, here is another MASSIVE example of the integration of Ancient Egyptian Gods into our modern world.

    There was an Ancient Egyptian Frog Goddess known as "Heget", she was considered magic because frogs would come during the flood time, and flood time was when Nile worship benefited a person, since it would water your crops for you. And you might attribute that to your proper worship, which some people did.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heqet

    Heget later became "Hecate" who is the Goddess of Magic. Hecate is known to have a Torch sometimes and a thorny crown sometimes.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hecate

    And if you Google "Mithras Symbol Torch Whip Crown" you will see that the torch and the Thorny crown are connected in not only one culture but various cultures...

    Now, have you ever wondered why the statue of Liberty is Green? It was an accident due to the copper right?

    I don't think it was an accident. The statue of Liberty is GREEN like a frog Goddess SHOULD be, she is holding a torch like Hecate/Heget, and she is wearing a Helios crown aka Thorny Crown aka Crown like the Sun.

    The Statue of Liberty is Heget frog Goddess of the Flood water.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statue_of_Liberty
     
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    WOW!!!

    That's a stretch!

    The designer of the Statue of Liberty who gave with France the larger of two to the U.S. and the other smaller one was set up by the Eiffel Tower....was made out of Copper as Copper lasts and as well the Artist wanted the Green Oxidation to give both sculptures artistic depth.

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    Now for another weird modern Mixture of religions. If you Googled "Mithras Symbol Whip Crown Torch" you saw the Hecate symbols, if you Google "Mithras Symbol for Father" or "Mithras Symbol for Bull killer" you will see a Phrygian cap aka Santa Hat and a J shaped knife.
    http://archive.archaeology.org/online/features/bull_killer/images/7-PaterGrades.jpg

    These are the tools of Mithras. The knife he used to rip out the throat of the bull and the Hat he wore.

    If you look at the "Oman" people, their national Emblem has a J shaped knife and Christmas Colors...
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oman

    I am just pointing all this stuff to point out, the Christians may seem like they make the most sense, but that is just because they chopped off the most heads and got you all talking about them like they are the good side. But they are not the good side and are obviously not the side that values learning and new information, or even preserving real history.

    And Specifically, Mithraic Tradition has been hiding in the background for a while now.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mithraic_mysteries
     
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    I don't side with any Religion.

    I judge a Groups actions independently of their stated beliefs.

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    And to bring this around full circle back on topic before I go to sleep, since Mithraic Tradition is in the background, the politicians would recognize it if we started using it. So if they see Santa hats on top of poles and people taking mushrooms and posting about it this Christmas, they might start being real leaders.
     
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    And just in case anyone reading this thinks "Sin" is a thing that matters much. Just pick your God and try to be close to him, Marijuana, Mushrooms or whatever. "Sin" is an archery term and your "Sin" is how far you shot from the Bulls eye. So if your God is represented on Earth by Marijuana, smoke Marijuana and you are the opposite of Sin.

    Sin is 100% relative, and Christians are in perpetual sin because they can not truly know what God wants. So they are always lost from him. But that is because they are worshiping an imaginary "Master".
     
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    Alright, so last night I went from Hindu and Shinto, to "Demonic" Christian like religions, to Egyptian/Mithraic stuff. So I am going to get more into Egypt now, and since I was talking about religions crossing, I am going to talk about Greek Egyptian relations. Then go further back than Egypt.

    Firstly, when the Greeks came to Egypt, they named it Aegyptos, that is why we call it Egypt. The "Egyptians" called it "Kemet" which means "The Black Land". Also when the Greeks saw Egypt, they thought that Egypt was where their Gods came from. They automatically went through the Kemetic pantheon and identified their Gods with the Kemetic Gods. Thoth is Hermes AKA the Planet Mercury, Horus is Zeus AKA the Planet Jupiter, if you did not know the planets were Gods, just look up "The Ogdoad".

    The way we view Kemet now is based heavily on the Greek interpretation. The still call the Kemetic leader "Pharaoh" but in Kemet Pharaoh was not even a person, "Par'Oh" was the palace the Kemetic king lived in, with the Apis Cow and other holy animals and people.

    But even though the Greeks thought the Egyptians were the oldest civilization, there was still an older one according to the Kemetic people. Most historians will say that Sumeria is where the oldest civilization is found, but the Kemetic people knew different and so do some historians today. If you have ever heard of "Phrygia" it is a place in turkey that has existed for at least 5,000 years, so since 3,000 BC. This is the place the Santa hat was invented, it is called a "Phrygian cap". The Phrygian people were Phoenician, the Phoenician people invented the first ever clear glass, boats that could sail in the ocean and languages like Arabic, German & Greek. The Kemetic Pharaoh wanted to know who's culture was older, so around 1000 BC they took 2 kids and locked them in a room to be raised with no human contact, only to be fed. Then after a set amount of time they let them out to see what language a person speaks when they have never had human contact, because they assumed this would tell them which language was the oldest. And the children said "Bekos" which is Phrygian for "Bread".

    And if you study ancient Kemet, you find that just like how the Greeks saw Egypt and thought their Gods came from there, if you read Kemetic mythology and historical records, there is a place called "The Land of Punt" aka "The Land of the Gods". We know it actually exists because we have found Gold from Punt and supplies from Punt in Egypt, but no one has found Punt.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land_of_Punt

    Most people think Punt is in Somalia or Eritrea or around there because they have found Ebony from Punt in Egypt, so they assume the place Punt is located must have Ebony. But if you look at Egyptian Records, the people of Punt live in stilt houses, meaning little hut type things that stood on 4 legs to avoid swamp water or flood water. And if you look into Archaeology, you will find that Stilt houses were VERY popular in Switzerland and around Europe, not in Africa.

    Then if you look at the Phrygian culture, which the Egyptians said were older than them, they are Phoenician and live in Turkey. Europe itself is named after a Phoenician woman, Europa was apparently a half mythical woman who ruled Europe and was of Phoenician decent.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europa_(mythology)

    Then there are the People of Hannibal Barca. The Carthaginian kingdom was a Phoenician one, started by the Queen "Dido". And within that Kingdom were a group of people known as "Punics", who trace their lineage back all the way to Phoenician settlers, which means they came from somewhere else. The Punic people were actually the specific Phoenicians who invented clear glass and they were basically the heart of the Carthaginian empire. And Carthage is thought of as "African" but they ruled Sicily and they could have been all over the place as far as we know, before the Romans came and destroyed as many traces of them as they could. And if you have ever heard of the Etruscans, they are the culture that taught Rome to be "better" than the other Greeks, but they did not keep many of their own records, so we don't really know who they were. Again, I think Phoenician/Punic history might be able to explain these things for us if people were actually looking for missing puzzle pieces.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Etruscan_civilization

    Again, no one has ever found Punt, but I think that the location of Punt could be found if we discovered more about the history of the Punics.
     
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    Now for another Greek Kemetic connection.

    In Egypt/Kemet, Ma'at is known as the Goddess of Law, Truth, Balance and Justice. She is represented on Earth by the Scale, and she (Balance, etc) is present throughout the universe.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maat

    Ma'at, is not only a concept in ancient Kemet, but a concept that is alive today. Ma'at is blind lady justice at the court house, Ma'at is Mathematics where both sides must be even just like on an ancient scale/balance, Ma'at is in legal Maxims where equality can be found between men or women in court.

    The Kemetics believed that Ma'at was the Balance in the Universe, and she held the Universe together (kinda like Gravity). They also believed that Thoth (Hermes to the Greeks, Mercury to the Romans) invented Math by looking at her. This brings us to the ancient Sciences. If you remember before I pointed out that Isaac Newton invented Gravity by reading the Bible and practicing Alchemy. The practices of Thoth, Hermes, Mercury are known as "Hermeticism" and just like Gnosticism and Mithaism, Heremticism has been hiding just beneath the surface of our religions since the people who were practicing them were forced into new religions like Christianity and Islam by force or peer pressure.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermeticism

    Hermeticism includes Alchemy (ancient Chemistry/Perfumery/Potion Making), Astrology (Mapping the Planets and Watching Plants and People), and Theurgy or "Ritual Practice".

    An example of Hermeticism being hidden in plain sight is a deck of playing cards. 52 cards, clubs, spades, diamonds and hearts. This is actually a Tarot Deck. Clubs = Wands, Spades = Knives/Swords, Diamond = Coin/Pentacle, Hearts = Goblet/Cup, and each card represents a different Tarot card. I think the Joker or the Jack are the "Magician", I am not sure. But this is why cards are used in games of "Fortune", you are using a Tarot deck, but instead of reading for future events, you are directly planning out strategies with the cards you get and making your own fortune.
     
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    Another Ancient Tradition hidden in plain sight is the practice of "Physician". We all recognize right away the symbol of the Rod, with the Snakes wrapped around it, and the Wings as "The symbol of the Hospital" or "The symbol on the Ambulance", but this is actually the Staff of Hermes and it represents the Planet Mercury. It is known as a Caduceus.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caduceus

    This symbol was borrowed from a Greek cult that was more specifically interested in Medicine and Surgery than other Hermes worshipers, they were the Cult of Asclepius, and they were carrying down the ancient medical tradition of Ancient Egypt. Asclepius was the Greek form of Imhotep who was worshiped in Greece until they banned the worship of him because he was a dark skinned God.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asclepius

    Imhotep was an actual person, but because he invented the first columns for building and the first pyramid around 2500 BC, the Pharaoh built a temple to Imhotep, which basically worked as the first hospital. Imhotep had invented the first surgical procedures and the some of the first medical cures, so they copied his work and passed it down, and it acted as the first medical textbook.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imhotep

    Eventually, as mentioned before, Imhotep became a God and his temples made their way to Greece, until they banned his worship, and Asclepius took his place. And Hippocrates, a member of this cult, was the one who invented the Hippocratic oath which doctors still say today, and he invented "Western Medicine" which would later be expanded on greatly by Galen and others.
     
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    Have you ever wondered why Christianity is not like Judaism? For one, Judaism keeps it's laws very close to its religion, but secondly, the Jewish people don't accept Jesus. And this is a larger point than it is made out to be. The "Messiah" was meant to be a warlord, like David, who could reclaim Israel. Jesus didn't do that, so they say that the Messiah has not come yet.

    So what tradition are the Christians keeping? Mithraism is under the surface of Christmas and Politics, Hermeticism is just under the Surface of Medicine, Science, Gambling and Math. Gnosticism is just under the surface of Christianity, Islam and Judaism (that is why people can find so many weird math equations with pages and verses and chapters and stuff in the Bible).

    The actual tradition that the Christians are carrying is just as old, and just as hidden from the people carrying it. What they are celebrating was the choosing of a Pharaoh, Jesus was their Pharaoh and was establishing a "Dynasty". The word "Dynasty" actually comes from a book known as "Aegyptiaca" written by a man named Manetho. Manetho was the member of a cult that believed they could wash their sins every year by killing a bull, and this tradition came to Rome costing Jesus his life.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manetho#Aegyptiaca

    The book Aegyptiaca contains the entire history of Egypt, it is still the basis for most of our Egyptian timeline today. Can you imagine someone in 300 BC having the entire Egyptian timeline that we have today? And to them it was "Ancient Knowledge", now we just call it "History". But it would have been extremely beneficial for someone to have that kind of knowledge.

    According to the Bible there was a time when the King was scared of Jesus, so he ordered that all babies under 2 be killed. And Mary had to flee with Jesus. According to Catholic tradition, they visited a town in Egypt know as "Sebennytos", this was around 30 BC, so the book Aegyptiaca had been written about 300 years before that. And guess what city it was written in? Sebbenytos.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sebennytos

    Sebennytos was the center city for the cult of Serapis, Serapis had previously been known as "Apis", and every year the cult would choose a bull, put a crown on its head that looked like the sun (called a sun disk), and they would slaughter it to forgive them of their sins. But when the Greeks came to Egypt, they did not like the idea of a Bull being a God, so the Greeks and Egyptians (after Alexander took over) changed Apis to "Serapis" so that he was a human instead of a Bull.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serapis

    If the Catholics are right and Jesus' family visited Sebennytos, then it is very possible that they learned the practices of the Serapis cult, and it is very possible that they could have had access to the book Aegyptiaca. And if those things are true, it would explain why the Christians believe Jesus' death washed their sins, it would explain why the Romans gave him a thorny crown (it looks like the sun/sun disk), and called him king of the Jews (he was starting a new Dynasty).

    So, maybe don't be so happy the guy died. It's kinda weird right? Like "I'm so happy he didn't get to finish telling us everything and had his life cut short, his life force feels so nice in my heart", what if people had those feelings before the church called it "Jesus"?
     
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    Since I mentioned Hermeticism and Tarot cards and stuff, I thought maybe some people might want to learn about another cool type of Astrological Practice. There is something called "Parrot Astrology".
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parrot_astrology

    There is a famous Astology Parrot named Mani. The way he does it is basically like Tarot, but instead of the cards being shuffled and chosen from the top, the cards are all spread out and the parrot picks one. This is obviously not the best way to take fortune into your own hands, and the practice is dying out. Unlike Gambling, which uses tarot decks and makes millions if not billions of dollars per casino per year.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mani_the_parakeet

    A similar practice known as Alectryomancy uses Roosters and Grain like a Ouija board. 2 methods of doing this are placing grain randomly around in the shape of the alphabet and see where the Rooster goes to eat and read what he says. Or make a circle with the alphabet around the Rooster and do the same. You can also have the alphabet set up in carving or paint and place a single piece of grain at each one. Just like Tarot, there is a more popular form of this where people take fortune into their own hands. It is called (*)(*)(*)(*) fighting, and it's illegal in many places.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alectryomancy

    Both of these practices could be classified under the name "Ornithomancy" or "Augury" which is "Bird Divination". This is similar to how people say "Ravens are a bad omen", there are many more "signs" than this, but that one specifically is based on the fact that Ravens are Carrion birds, and would have been seen in ancient times eating dead bodies in the street.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ornithomancy
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Augury

    In the originally written version of the Oral Torah/Bible tradition known as "The Septuagint", Joseph "with his technicolor dream coat" was said to have practiced Ornithomancy. Later the Bible forbids the practice.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Septuagint
     
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    Now a days Astrology is used to find out who you should date or what day you are going to get a new job, but that is not what it used to be for.

    The ancient "Gods" are really just the Planets. I have said this like 1,000 times here already, so I am sorry if you already read it, but here is the Ogdoad, which was the ancient version of the Solar System. They saw the planets with their BARE EYES in the sky, as little twinkling stars that moved every day. You can still see the planets today if you know where they are. And they used these planets to tell when the frosts were coming, or when the Solstice was coming.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ogdoad

    If you are wondering why they did things like give Zeus/Jupiter a lighting bolt, it was because the science of the time said that Planets effected weather. It does not mean that they thought Zeus was a magic man, it means they thought Jupiter caused lightning, and they depicted that in a statue of a man.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judicial_astrology#Categorisation

    And there is evidence (Nabta Playa) that the Ancient Egyptians had knowledge of the Planets as early as 10,000 BC And the Babylonians followed shortly behind them.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egyptian_astronomy#Ancient_Egypt
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babylonian_astrology

    They used to have an we still do, map the movement of the planets, sun and moon in order to know what to do with our crops. This is known as "Agricultural Astrology" and you can find it in the modern Almanacs. These books were originally written by people like Benjamin Franklin, but they were passed down and they are just considered normal for farmers now.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agricultural_astrology
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Almanac
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Farmer's_Almanac

    But not only did they use it for things like Farming and Special Sun events, but ancient people (especially the women) noticed that their bodies went through Cycles, specifically they thought that women's menstrual cycles were based on the cycles of the moon, so women were considered to have access to a connection with the "heaven" aka 'As above, so below". This sparked "Medical Astrology" which associated different plants and body parts with different heavenly bodies.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medical_astrology

    If you want to get into specifically knowing where the planets are around you and stuff, Astrocartography is an Astrology that is based on your exact location and the sky according to where you are. But I still wouldn't trust it to find you a job. It's just recognition and reverence and watching cycles to see what happens.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrocartography
     
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    If you remember Hermes/Mercury/Thoth from before, Alchemy was obviously based on the planets, specifically Mercury since they used his staff as their symbol and the tradition is now called "Hermeticism".
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_planets_in_Western_alchemy

    But just like how different planets were considered to effect weather and body parts, they said that different Minerals were associated with different heavenly bodies. This is similar to the Hindu tradition of "Chakra Stones".

    Sun = Gold
    Moon = Silver
    Mercury = Mercury
    Venus = Copper
    Mars = Iron
    Jupiter = Tin
    Saturn = Lead

    Alchemy was different from Chemistry in a few other ways as well. Instead of waiting for someone to accidentally do something and create a new method (which is usually what happens today, many things are discovered as "byproducts" of other procedures, or by mimicking other procedures) which is fine. But Alchemy had a different spirit to it. They knew there was Gold, so they assumed "We will find something that will dissolve Gold" and they named it Alkahest hoping someone would find it. You might not like that method, but I don't see how it could hurt to look for something that could exist and could be useful if we could make it. Because what if we end up making it one day? And also, without these kinds of thoughts, we would have never had people experimenting with metal and discovering its different qualities, and we wouldn't have chemistry or microchips or anything.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alkahest

    A similar substance is Azoth, which was considered "The Ultimate Substance" said to be the Ultimate cure for any Spiritual, Mental or Physical attack. And I think we found that in DMT, lol.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azoth

    Then there is the "Elixer of Life" and "The Philospher's stone" sometimes they are considered to be the same, sometimes they are different. But if there were never people looking for these things and doing it under the name of the god Hermes/Mercury, we would not have modern Medicine or Hospitals.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elixir_of_life
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosopher's_stone

    And just because they were wrong about how Chemistry and Science works, doesn't mean that they didn't get in to some amazing science that we might be skipping over by limiting ourselves to that which has already accidentally been discovered in full.
     
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    There is a strange version of Divination that started a long time ago, and people still use it today, on a pretty LARGE scale, even in America.

    Most people say "I don't do Astrology and Fortune telling" but you are mistaken. There is an art of Divination known as "Physiognomy" also known as "Thinking you can judge a persons character by their appearance, from your perspective"
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physiognomy

    So basically, this has many different forms. Everything from the racist old man that says black people look like they are up to no good, to the woman who thinks she can spot a rapist by the way someone looks. This was a well accepted ancient practice in the Western World, and has survived into today. Ex: If you see someone with long hair, does that mean something about them in your head? Then you are claiming to be Psychic basically.

    It is now considered a "Pseudoscience", but I just wanted to point it out since there are so many people that still use it today, even in America.
     

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