"Walking Guns" Programs Started Under Bush!

Actually, the OP is correct and provided the evidence of such.

Project Gunrunner started under the previous administration. Fast and Furious was an operation under Gunrunner, a sort of sub-operation of a larger program.

Now I don't see anyone mewling about the legality of the overall program and instead blaming the current administration for an operation that failed when the overall operation spans both presidents.

 

We all have been saying the operation is a failure. Why would anyone give guns to drug dealers no matter who is president.

The problem is, this administration is trying to cover up any knowledge about it. First Holder knew, than he didn't. he said he learned about it only a few weeks ago, when he knew about it back in 2010 according to memos that were released.

And if Bush was so stupid and such a terrible president, why is Obama continuing his same crappy policies?

 

Nope.. Youve been lied too...

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PNhYk9NuNc"]Obama Orders Launched Fast and Furious - YouTube[/ame]

 

So you post a blame Bush article...good for you.
Now, do you condemn the DOJ and Obama administration for F&F? Yes or no?

 

Strawman argument. I never said "Bush was so stupid". I don't think he is stupid at all.

Project Gunrunner has had some success in preventing the shipment of arms to Mexican drug gangs.

http://www.atf.gov/publications/factsheets/factsheet-project-gunrunner.html

As in any criminal sting, there is a chance of failure. I hardly think blaming the president for Mexican gangs shooting someone is an accurate placement of blame.

 

Correct, but you left 1 off the list. Con.

 

I blame the president, both of them because if they would secure the border, drug gangs wouldn't be having such easy access to our borders. Put national guard and Army on the border, we have enough soldiers.

 

Ironically, I place blame on the criminal, the person that pulled the trigger.

However, your placement of blame seems rather ridiculous in the context you provide. The border, under any president, has never been secure to the point to not allow people crossing it who are not supposed to have crossed it.

 

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RqiPgUH3uE"]Arizona Sheriff : BATF Are Accomplises To Murder! - YouTube[/ame]

 

The entire Federal Government was under Bush, before it was under Obama. I guess thats why Obama isnt held responsible for what occurs in the federal government still by you people.

 

Even I'm not so harsh as to classify them as convicts without due process...

 

Once again we see the idiotic liberal idea that if Bush is guilty, odrama is innocent.

WRONG! as always.

That 'Wide Receiver" existed under Bush in NO WAY excuses 'Fast and Furious" under odrama.

If Bush is guilty for having such a program, how is the incompetent incumbent idiot odrama innocent for duplicating the program?

If it was proved to be a bad idea under Bush, why did odrama do it too?

Bush bad, odrama much, much worse.

 

I really could not give a fgying frog's (*)(*)(*)(*) what some inbred cousin humping redneck form Arizona has to say about jack (*)(*)(*)(*)ing (*)(*)(*)(*) in this world.

To put it mildly.

Surprisingly, your post has nothing to do with anythign I said.

 

Does that mean that hundreds of innocent people have been killed by Mexican drug lords using guns that Bush gave them?

I don't see that accusation anywhere in this report so maybe there is a difference in the level of competence between the two administrations.

 

Libs still blaming stuff on a ex-President from 3 years ago huh..

Hows that working out for you folks? just getting ready for another HISTORIC loss in 2012?

 

Irrelevant. The policy is to blame. A policy of children running with scissors is a bad idea BEFORE somebody get's hurt.

 

See post #91

 

See post #91

(Debate 3-4 people at once and winning is pretty sweet, I have to admit. )

 

Who started the program? Now, think hard and don't look at the Limbaugh memo.

 

On that, I agree. Of course neither will ever be prosecuted.

 

There is only one thing that is certain.

at least 2 service members were killed because of this program, Obama has blood on his hands.

 

How long is the left going to blame Bush for their problems and failures?

Fast & Furious.....Solyndra......it's all Bush's fault! Pathetic.

 

that is what wimps do. they blame everyone but themselves. that is the problem with this country. everyone wants to put blame instead of taking responsibility and manning up to mistakes.

its hard to believe the strongest nation in the world is being run by beta-males

Just look at it, compare George Washington to Obama. its laughable

 

Attorney General Eric Holder is like an oozing wound for Obama. Let Holder stay in office and let this wound bleed. Drip, drip, drip,....

 

WTF? It was stupid then and it is worse now, 2 men were killed, is that your way of celebrating Dasein?

Every American should be upset of our governments incompetence, too bad Obama wasn't smart enough to see the idiocy in this operation, and Holder the liar needs to be held accountable for his knowledge.