Was Jesus aware of being Yahweh?

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  1. Greatest I am

    Greatest I am Well-Known Member

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    Our friend has already ignored the many scriptures that refute him on free will as well as examples, like the story of Yahweh hardening pharaoh's heart and forcing him to change his mind.

    Those are imbedded in this longish piece.

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    Are non-believers doomed by Divine Design?

    Scriptures say that God decides if a person will be a believer or non-believer. Those scriptures are shown in this link.



    Those quotes seems to really screw up the free will notion that Christians say God gives us.

    The free will that God offers is kind of a joke anyway given the number of people whose free will to live is ignored in the billions of adults, children and babies that God is shown to torture and murder in scriptures.

    If the bible and Yahweh are to be believed, and as a non-believer, I, of course, cannot believe it, thanks to God, by God’s design and will against me, then why did God deny me belief or faith?

    Even more important to believers, might be to answer the question of; did God make you a believer in things that you can only hope exists and can never confirm?

    Are you happy with God ignoring or negating your free will to think as you please?

    I have assumed that God’s work of creating both believers and non-believers is working. If that is so, and you believers must think it so, just as I as a non-believer cannot think it is working, --- and Jesus said that those with faith could do all he did and more, --- then there is not even one believer or person of faith that has ever existed.

    Either the bible and Christianity is all a lie, or there must be some who can do what Jesus did.

    What is your choice of those two options?

    Is the bible and Christianity a lie, or is God just not creating any people with faith, --- which would make all Christians who say they have faith, --- liars.

    I mean no insult here but someone is definitely lying, if we read what is written and look at reality and listen to Christians.

    What do you think is the truth?

    Is it just for God to create people doomed to hell even if they wanted to believe?

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    DL
     
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    That is not what scriptures say. They say Satan has control with her extra power to deceive the whole world.

    Accept that or denounce the temptation of Christ because it shows Satan having and offering dominion.

    Both situation cannot be true.

    Which of your lies is the true lie?

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    Do you think it good to serve a genocidal god or his homophobic and misogynous religions?

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    You have to ignore a lot of scriptures to believe as you do.

    Check the link in the post above.

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    God punished the guilty in Canaan. God also pronounced the death sentence on every man, woman and child who sinned. Ezekiel says the soul that sins shall die. But God also gave all men women and children grace through Jesus.
     
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    Who did Israel mass murder?
     
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    God is different from people.
     
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    Satan is the lowercase god of this world-the god of this age. God is the uppercase Lord of this world.
     
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    Christianity isn't homophobic. Jesus mingled with the gays. God judged the Canaanites for their sin not for their ethnicity. Christianity isn't misogynistic. Women pastors are forbidden because of the sin of people not because who's smarter or more capable.
     
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    More lies.

    Is that all you are good for?

    At least tell us how a child can earn eternal purposeless torture.

    You think you know god so explain how children can sin.

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    Thanks for proving they are misogynous.

    You are a garbage poster I will ignore you now, unless you get into nan actual discussion or debate.

    You are not worth an intelligent person's time.

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    David said that he was brought forth in iniquity.
     
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    then you’re just making it up.
     
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    There is nothing there about any free will. All you have is some guys who don’t like the same god, and are violent about it.
     
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    Is it misogynistic that only men properly propose to women in marriage? https://www.gotquestions.org/women-preachers.html

     
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    In that verse God said choose this day whom you will serve.
     
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    So you blame the victim for something he could not help and had no hand in accomplishing.

    Ok.

    You show why your religion has corrupted your moral sense.

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    Sure screws up the free will you foolishly claim god gives us.

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    That free will exists is a given.
     
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    That is not the case, but to make that a rule, like Christians have, show misogyny.

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    Thats like Bathsheba was innocent of something she couldnt help and had no hand in accomplishing. I dont believe in a religion I believe in a relationship with God.
     
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    Then give your genocidal prick of a god a big kiss for me.

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    Holy lost in ridiculousness batman .. Ezekiel is not referring to a punishment while one is alive --- duh
     
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    You believe in man made dogma that you can't explain.
     
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    I believe my post suggested that one could ignore all of scripture and still believe that God has given you free will.
     

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