WATCH LIVE: President Trump‘s 2019 State of the Union Address and the Democratic Response

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  1. chris155au

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    I don't know how a wall can be racist. That's just absolute stupidity of the highest order.
     
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    Why didn't Obama do TPS?

    You mean, WOULDN'T of still thought DACA was safe from Trump?
     
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    How is Trump's wall not building walls where walls are needed?
     
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    Crazy, right? A "racist" wall, lol :roflol: Liberals are really going overboard with the "racism" thing, now even walls are racist, go figure. It would be funny except there are people who believe that silly nonsense.
     
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    he could not, he had a republican Congress, that is why he did a EO

    Republicans would not do DACA for Obama, but they may for Trump.. all he has to do is tell Mitch that is what he wants to trade for wall funding and Mitch will make it happen

    no, if Trump had not undone DACA, people would not of given it much thought as they were safe, ironically Trump brought this on himself by trying to undo all things Obama
     
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    People aren't saying 'of', they're saying 've'; as in: 'should've'. It's short for 'should have'.

    "It is a mistake to use of instead of have in constructions such as you should have asked (not you should of asked)."

    https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/of
     
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    Everything else seems to be impeachable offense to a lot of the most vocal Democrats, albeit Pelosi is not one of those clamoring for impeachment. But for some of the others, everything else is so why not that?

    As for 'jumping the gun on custom', this President has not been a 'status quo' poll tested, coached, polished politician. This gives the media a lot of fodder because he and/or his staff sometimes doesn't fact check everything carefully--Obama had that problem too but a more friendly media didn't report much of his factual error--but President Trump's ability to identify and hone in on the actual problem is pretty darn good. And he is the first President we have had in a very long time that cared more about solving actual problems than political expediency of not disturbing the status quo.

    So if he doesn't always follow strict protocol in some situations, that's just pretty much who he is and generally works pretty well.
     
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    has Trump said where he wants to build walls, start with a plan, tell us where he wants them
     
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    No, so why are you passing judgement?
     
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    Why wouldn't dems accept TPS? Wouldn't that be better than nothing?

    For his entire 8 years?

    On the DACA Executive Order, Trump undid it because it was a blatant ABUSE of the executive branch of government, ordering that federal laws be COMPLETELY UNENFORCED! Isn't that unprecedented? Passing laws is what the LEGISLATURE is for, NOT the executive branch!
     
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    I said they would accept TPS, as DACA would not be a issue if Trump did not make it a issue, now Trump has to give them both
     
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    if Trump doesn't say where he wants to build his walls, then how can we discuss it
     
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    So you're not against Trump's wall for ANY other reason, other than the lack of detail?
     
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    If they "accept TPS", then why does Trump have to give both?
     
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    many reasons, Trump's making it a symbol of racism being one of them as well
     
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    cause Trump did what he did to DACA.... had Trump not done that, he would of only had to give on TPS...
     
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    The DACAs got nothing from the deal

    And its only a matter of time before the obama executive order is overturned
     
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    Again, if TPS was Trump's BEST offer, then why wouldn't Democrats accept that? Isn't TPS better than NOTHING?
     
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    Name just ONE other reason.
     
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    Isn't it already overturned?
     
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    No

    Its being held up by a federal judge appointed by obama
     
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    Trump has no plan and we have no idea where he wants to build it... get a plan on where you want to build it before requesting billions to build it
     
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    we want both, Trump said he loves Dreamers, why would he refuse to help the Dreamers?
     
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    How would offering TPS be refusing to help the dreamers?
     
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    So just TWO reasons for you? No plan and racism?
     

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