WATCH LIVE: Two Dead, One Wounded After Shooting Reported at White Settlement Church

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  1. ronv

    ronv Well-Known Member

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    Don't Texans vote for their mayors?
    It's not mayors out shooting people, it's Texans.
     
  2. notme

    notme Well-Known Member

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    I don't recall mass stabbing incidents, like there are mass shooting incidents in the US.
    Actually... it's more of an incident if it doesn't turn into a mass shooting.
     
  3. guavaball

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    Yes and those major cities are heavy liberal still proving my point. But keep digging if you like.
     
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    ronv Well-Known Member

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    Is this about liberals?
    I thought it was about Texas having a higher homicide rate than ocean blue California.
    Let me know when you want me to fill in that hole you are in.
     
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    Well Bonded Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Then you are not paying attention and have an agenda.
     
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  6. SiNNiK

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    Women fatally shooting their rapists are considered homicide and is therefor included in the homicide rates. If Texas has a higher homicide rate than California does, it's because here in Texas we shoot back.

    Homicide is not necessarily a bad thing.
     
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    The Wyrd of Gawd Well-Known Member

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    If the worshipers know about the promise why do they resist the will of their favorite deity? The story says that he wants them dead and that he protects the souls of his victims by keeping them under the altar and gives them white robes to wear. Several posters have said that they were unaware of that. But Im sure that the shooter knew it and that is why he killed the people at the church. He wanted them to go to heaven and not continue to suffer the pains and anguish of a physical life. He saved their souls. That was his motive. Don't you wish that he would have saved your soul? Now you will probably have to suffer a long drawn-out dying process filled with pain and tears and your soul could end up in the lake of fire.

    Remember Matthew 10:28 (CEB) = Don’t be afraid of those who kill the body but can’t kill the soul. Instead, be afraid of the one who can destroy both body and soul in hell.

    So, according to the Bible, the people are wrong to fear being killed in church because even though their bodies might die, their souls will live on. If the shooter believed that he had more faith than anyone else in the church and could have been sent by his deity to show that their guns are unable to protect them.

    Church shootings will continue around the world until believers get the message and believe it. How about another one next week?
     
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    source it.
     
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    When I hand you an example meeting all the criteria you required, you then add two more qualifiers.

    Moving. The. Goalposts.

    Does your position need to dodge to survive?
     
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  12. notme

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    dude... it was posted that
    "And yet they have what they refer to as a epidemic of stabbing deaths."
    they.. refers to Europe. Not my problem you jump in on a discussion with no clue what it was about.
     
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    Y'know Wyrd, what you DON'T know about Christianity would fill a library. You parrot that same quote over and over again, but you lack context. Here, try this quote from Philippians:

    In other words, while being in Heaven is great, we are still needed here to help others attain perfection in Christ. Try assimilating that quote into your belief structure.
     
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    Already done, pay attention.
     
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    there was no source posted about a European mass stabbing incidents, like there is a mass shooting incident in the US... as what got claimed in post 325.

    So we're still at:
    Europe has far more stricter gun regulation laws. They also have far less gun related deaths.
    These are facts.
     
  16. The Wyrd of Gawd

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    The world population now exceeds 7.8 Billion people. All of us have our own unique beliefs but it is the few who are willing to act on their beliefs that can cause trouble for all of the rest of us. In the case of the recent church shooting it seems that the shooter believed in an ancient ethnocentric Middle Eastern Jewish religious fairy tale and thought that he was doing a good deed by killing people who supposedly believed in the fairy tale the same way he did. He was wrong. They had different beliefs.

    Religious beliefs are far more dangerous than political beliefs because religious beliefs promise eternal life. And if a person wants to live forever he will act on those religious beliefs. That can result in widespread death and destruction. The nitwits running the government do the same thing that the killer did but they do it on a continuous basis, non-stop, 24/7/365. They use fools who don't know any better to do their killing and destruction by claiming that it is protecting the country. It is a world-wide problem and has nothing to do with gun control. It is a mental problem. Remember, about half of Americans are, or will be, mentally ill = https://www.mentalhealthfirstaid.org/2019/02/5-surprising-mental-health-statistics/
     
  17. Thought Criminal

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    I think that you are focusing on only one side of the coin.

    I do agree with what you say about that side. Many senseless wars, and killings, and other brutalities have been conducted in the name of one god or another.

    Yet, there is another side.

    There is the promise that there will be a greater reward awaiting those who lead honorable lives.

    Without the promise of eternal reward, or punishment, how do we motivate the greater population to behave in a civilized manner? All civilized societies depend on people controlling their own behaviors. Without religion to keep our most base natures in check, how do we keep the strong from abusing the weak? There aren't enough police. Even if there were, we need them to keep their own natures in check. I think that religion is a useful tool against man's baser instincts.

    Do you have a better plan for encouraging a civil society?
     
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    First you claimed I said the murder rate was half in Texas then backed off when I challenged you to prove I said it.

    This is about liberal run cities where the murders increase. Are you reading this thread?

    LOL Not a higher murder rate

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    Remember that? You posted it. Can you see what state is highest in murders Ron?

    From the guy who can't even read his own evidence thats pretty funny.
     
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    No doubt if the mental health profession had their way, we would all be defined as mentally ill and be made to seek expensive treatment.

    It is interesting that the web site you link to offers mental health first aid training at a mere $2000 for a 3 day class. I think the security guy in the church had a good approach to mental health first aid, i.e., the bullet in the head provided not only first aid but a cure. I could probably take a 3 day class from him at less than $2000.
     
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    Religions generally urge that believers punish non-believers. It is far better to have a secular society that establishes and respects the human and civil rights of all people to be treated fairly and equitable. Religious societies are usually weak on that.
     
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    Without the threat of eternal punishment and the promise of eternal reward...

    HOW do we establish a secular society that respects the rights of all people? Do we sacrifice (murder) those who disagree with our concept of what makes an equitable society?

    I think that we would have to begin with some basic covenants. After that, I think that we would have to come up with a strategy to encourage the citizenry to buy in to the framework.

    This is where I think that the plan breaks down. Without an internalized sense of self-regulation, only a totalitarian state can enforce its will upon the populace.
     
  23. ronv

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    No it's about the murder rate in Texas.
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    Do I need to give you the population of both states so you can calculate the rate?


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    This happens sometimes when you respond to someone else's post. Don't feel bad.
     
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    So we can't have a moral society without inventing a magic man in the sky? A sad commentary on the human race if true. I think history shows a society based on religion is far more dangerous than a religious society.
     
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    "I think history shows a society based on religion is far more dangerous than a religious society."

    I don't understand this.
     

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