Watch Obama's Full Speech

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  1. liberalminority

    liberalminority Well-Known Member

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    obama had democrat majorities in both houses of congress, it is only fair President Trump gets the same with Republicans.
     
  2. LangleyMan

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    What does this have to do with what I wrote?
     
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    Thier hatred of Trump is far from justified.
     
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    Thank you for your understanding.
    It's hard to believe there are some adults out there who aren't able to have a civil conversation about things.
    The data is there for review. It's no wonder voters are poised to give him the boot.
    One would think that would be a good place to start talking. I am not an "all or nothing" thinker so I don't get that approach.
    Yes. I should have differentiated them. I have no trouble with people with different opinions or views. I have no time or energy for people that just like to bully others. It's so pointless and often counterproductive.
     
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    Yes you were wrong, he objectively never called it a miracle cure. This is beyond arguable, it’s objectively a false narrative. Own up to it, you lied. He never called it a miracle cure.

    Incorrect, painting one side as completely full of white supremacists is false. They were opposing removing a statue of history. That doesn’t make them white supremacists. A few agitators doesn’t make them all guilty l. Again, you are objectively wrong.

    Like it or not, you have been caught spreading propaganda.
     
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    My point stands despite your refusal to acknowledge it. You said he called it a miracle cure. This never happened. You have even proven your self wrong. There is nothing to discuss.

    So many on the left have abandoned all critical thought in this all or nothing hatred of Trump and everyone that disagree with the lefts objectively false narratives.
     
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    No he did not, he never said it was a miracle cure. Again, you are spreading fake news. So many on the left fall for it to lol

    you have been proven objectively wrong regardless of how you choose to “feel” about it.
     
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  8. LangleyMan

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    He's killed a lot of Americans. You shouldn't be surprised folks are upset.
     
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    Incorrect, it was democrats not taking it seriously, having the worst hit areas in the nation that killed a lot of Americans. But so many are easily manipulated by fake news they choose to hate the man who took action far before anyone else did.
     
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    Cubed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm curious; are you simply arguing the textual nature of what he literally said (this specific set of words vs that specific set of words)? Or are you disputing the overall point (he never intimated the conceptual idea of a "miracle")?
     
  11. LangleyMan

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    The "miracle" (see above) and he said he took it protect against getting COVID-19, the cure. I didn't put "miracle cure" in quotes.

    You're just like this guy...

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    ... you can't admit you're wrong.
    :blahblah: :blahblah: :blahblah:

    Another Trump tactic ... change the subject.
     
  12. LangleyMan

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    You're gaslighting the forum.

    Trump lost Americans' confidence when he encouraged his supporters to protest against Democratic governors' orders in the fight against COVID-19. It's generally felt we opened too soon and that Trump is responsible for the mistake.

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    It only felt that way to those determined to hate him, he took action far before any democrat did, meanwhile democrat areas were hit the hardest as they were late to taking it seriously.
     
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    He never once said it was a miracle cure, it doesn’t matter how much you hate getting called out for that fake narrative you attempted to spew but nonetheless it is fake and deserving of being called out. It never happened. It doesn’t matter if you put it in quotes or not, you specifically said he called it a miracle cure. That is a lie.

    I don’t care who you “feel” that I am similar to. I’m simply pointing out that you lied about what he said.
     
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    I’m pointing out the objective truth that the person I’m responding to lied about what Trump said. He never called it a miracle cure. Nor did anything he said come anywhere close to calling it a miracle cure.
     
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    Trump formed a task force and instituted a partial ban on travel from China. Then he failed to ban travel from Europe which in particular devastated New York.

    Trump had early support for his action fighting the virus, but then he tossed it all away with his pressure on governors to open their states too soon.

    He has a chance in November, but he has to make people believe he will follow through on suppressing the coronavirus.
     
  17. LangleyMan

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    You have the final word unless you continue calling me a liar. Then the moderators will have their say.
     
  18. struth

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    who did he kill??

    i’m gonna have to flag your post as fake news
     
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  19. Pollycy

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    Correct.... After listening to ex-prez 'Banker's-stooge' Obama read prepared pablum from teleprompters, nobody but 'the faithful' have an appetite for anything else that comes out of that man's mouth.... Been there... done that....

    Suggested reading for those who are entertained by neo-socialist philosophers like our wonderous former 'president' --

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  20. LangleyMan

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    More than 180,000 Americans have died from COVID-19.

    Canada - 37,742,154 people; 9,073 COVID-19 dead
    USA - 331,002,651 people; 180,618 COVID-19 dead
    Scaled up to the US, Canada would 79,571 dead.

    (331,002,651 / 37,742,154) X 9,073​

    Trump has by this measure killed more than 100,000 Americans.

    Canada is on the same continent and is as urbanized as this country, so there's no excuse there.
    Uh huh. :rolleyes:
     
  21. struth

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    yep fake news...COVID or the Chinese Virus is not the president...it’s a virus from china

    Canada is not the United States

    You could say Andrew Cuomo is a killer...he ignored the CDC guidelines and spent sick people into old folks homes...that was murder
     
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    Speaking as someone who decided to stay in British Columbia instead of Oregon until this country comes to its senses about COVID-19, thank goodness.

    How many people does Trump need to kill before you pay attention?
    Cuomo is a killer, but not Trump? Hohhhh-Kayyyy...
     
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    yeah man. it’s a virus

    trump hasn’t killed anyone

    yes because Cuomo ignored the guidelines from Trumps experts and knowingly infected people

    BC is wide open and very little population...not to mention the leftist terrorist are running wild in Oregon...smart move
     
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    He banned people coming from China while democrats did absolutely nothing. He saved far more lives than any democrat who were telling people to go out in China town in large numbers costing countless lives. This is a democrat failure.
    Democrat areas have been hit the hardest, because they failed thier voters.
     
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  25. LangleyMan

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    BC has 2/3 of it's 5m people in the "Lower Mainland" which is the Greater Vancouver area. Oregon has around 4.3m people, less than BC.

    BC's population outside the Lower Mainland is typically in river valleys and is also concentrated in smaller urban areas. Overall, Oregon has a population concentrated around Portland and smaller urban areas like Eugene, Corvallis, and Medford, but it also has lots of smaller communities.
    Leftists running amok? No. In Portland, there is a yahoo element that's been present all the way back to the 19th Century, through Republican and Democratic Party dominated government. Oregon also has rightwing extremists who tend to less frequently clash with police, but years ago were prominent in oppressing minorities.

    Now, I'm a little different than most, but I would use the police against anyone rioting and looting, or intimidating minorities. But we don't need the Orange Oaf sending in the feds.

    How about you stop trashing states you know little about?
     

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