We are past due for welfare reform

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by logical1, Jul 15, 2019.

  1. jcarlilesiu

    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    They are right in the link.
     
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    ECA Well-Known Member

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    I know what's in the link. Why won't you answer the question? Nevermind....we all know why. Cheers
     
  3. jcarlilesiu

    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Because you are incapable or unwilling to read?
     
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    I have read it. Why are you incapable of answering my question?

    Is it because....
    Undocumented immigrants, including DACA holders, are ineligible to receive most federal public benefits, including means-tested benefits such as Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP, sometimes referred to as food stamps), regular Medicaid, Supplemental Security Income (SSI), and Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF). Undocumented immigrants are ineligible for health care subsidies under the Affordable Care Act (ACA) and are prohibited from purchasing unsubsidized health coverage on ACA exchanges.
     
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    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    From the same article.

    Legal immigrants use federal public benefit programs at lower rates than U.S.-born citizens. As recently as 2013, the rate at which non-citizens have used public benefit programs was less than that of U.S.-born citizens. For example, 32.5 percent of native-born citizen adults receive SNAP benefits compared to 25.4 percent of naturalized citizen adults and 29 percent of noncitizen adults

    How are 29% able to get SNAP as you suggest they cant get federal benefits.

    It's because they can.
     
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    I posted about ILLEGAL immigrants. You posted about LEGAL immigrants. See the difference?
     
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    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Alright. You are right.

    All articles say that "legal" immigrants can recieve benefits, and legal can extend to non-deportation immigrants, asylum immigrants, and DACA recipients...

    I consider many of these as protected by sanctuary cities as eligible, but I will concede.
     
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    Illegal immigrants are still illegal immigrants even in sanctuary cities. Meaning they don’t suddenly get legal status. Therefore still ineligible for federal public benefits.
     
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    Looks like he did just that, like a responsible adult.
     
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    What welfare?? LOL, what you wanna raise the age for SS now to 83? Get rid of medicare, and let Viruses spread rampant, with a buncha unvacenated hooligans?

    Or EBT, that's been proven to rise family's out of poverty, cause everyone performs better with a full belly, and not only that, people working 2 jobs for some reason still don't make enough to eat or feed their kids at the end of the day?

    Illegals don't get any of that. Maybe their American children get EBT, but whats the alternative? There Americans..Spend more on a foster family?
     
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    Yet they don't want it badly enough to work for it, like everyone else.

    As for your question (not directed to me, but still), yes .. absolutely kick them out. Keep doing it until they get the message.
     
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    Saying NOT TONIGHT, DEAR is perfect birth control.
     
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    And yet the vast majority of First World women manage to have both the number of kids they want (usually less than they want actually, since it doesn't always work), and avoid abortions.

    How ... because as you said above, women can control their biological functions - and can say no to sex.
     
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    cause people like Trump are hiring illegals, stop hiring illegals and they will all want to come the legal way
     
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