'We can't hide from it': See Gillette's razor-sharp ad about toxic masculinity

I’m your mind toxic masculinity is cancer what’s toxic femininity? A headache? Good thing then since I didn’t say that huh? I said we see all these negative ads directed towards male as a whole yet nothing for women? Are women not strong enough to have any impact on society? Why don’t they get equal treatment?

 

The mentality has lead to the scenarios described. Being offended by facts doesn't make them stop being facts. And it doesn't seem like you understood the statement about the soft bigotry of low expectations. It has nothing to do with accomplishments. The low expectations are about behavior, not ingenuity.

 

"boys will be boys" is a bumpersticker. It is entirely appropriate when boys "roughhouse" play or "get into mischief". But instead of being a wise parental observation, it is regularly used to conveniently dismiss criminal and abusive behavior of some men.

 

Yes, there are plenty of destructive concepts about other groups too. That isn't "rationalizing," that's just a basic ability to recognize objective fact. We already have a word for "toxic wealthy," for example. We call it affluenza.

 

A black man ate some fried chicken, dealt some drugs, pimped some hos and then slapped his wife. So Toxic Blackness? Where's that ad? A SJW woman made a false claim of sexual abuse, ruined a man's life, and then paraded around campus with a mattress strapped on her back. So Toxic Femininity? Where's that ad? Where's the ad telling Muslims not to bomb things? All those things have "actually happened" also. You aren't getting the point... and as usual with your posts I suspect it's intentional obtuseness.

 

I think you need a snickers...

 

No, you know, and I know, that there AREN'T destructive concepts about other groups because they would be roundly condemned as HATE SPEECH, and rightly so.

 

Now pointing out a problem logically is shaming? I guess we’ll never get problems solved anymore since pointing out tangible logical problems is shaming. Gillette is just piling in on the in thing which is to put all the worlds problems solely on the feet on men. Women don’t have impact on society apparently in these people’s view because you never see ads/talk shows calling out women’s poor behavior therefore the must think women aren’t strong enough to withstand criticism

 

The impotent flaming nonsense here-in posted by the left is just that impotent flaming nonsense but thanks for sharing your silliness. By the way there is nothing that quite so thoroughly demonstrates the fascist tendencies of the left as your post.

 

If you really want to get that hung up about analogies, then if it offends you less we can say that toxic masculinity is testicular cancer and toxic femininity is ovarian cancer. Is that less offense now?

Have you seriously never seen an ad that talks about women's body image issues? Really?

As for toxic masculinity, it is only an attack on men if the only concepts you have about manhood are these destructive concepts. Complaining about "equal treatment" is a convenient way to try to dodge talking about the facts, but it is little more than that.

 

Nothing wrong with a laid out logical argument....
this isn’t a logical argument
if you comment on this ad you must be guilty. That’s not logical , lay out how are person could know that? You can say it if you wish but it won’t stop the debate and we all know that was the goal

 

Congrats. You now acknowledge that it is okay to criticize bad things. Now you understand why the complaints about "shaming men" and advice to use honey instead of vinegar are absurd.

. . . can't tell if you didn't watch the video or didn't comprehend it. It has nothing to do with "putting all the world's problems solely on the feet of men." By that "logic" you are putting all of the world's problems solely on the feet of Gillette. Weird.

Now that one straw man has been burned to the ground, I guess it was time to start weaving together a straw woman.

 

Yeah. No. Have you ever seen an ad with a 300 pound woman pulverizing a pack of Oreos hailed as "Toxic Fatness" and brought to you by General Mills to sell more oatmeal? No, and you won't -ever- see that.

 

Says the person who is trying to invent argument for people and can't address the ones they've actually made. Remember that whole straw thingie?

 

I have seen plenty of ads that show some food as unhealthy and other foods as healthy. Some that even *gasp* talk about obesity. Anyone claiming that they've never seen any stories or articles about toxic eating habits hasn't done much reading.

But you do understand that, even if you had a point, it wouldn't change the fact that toxic masculinity is a thing and that maybe we should address it . . . right?

 

I'll try to summarize toxic masculinity even more: some boys and men act like dicks because they thing it is part of what it means to be a man. Teach them that this isn't what it means to be a man.

This shouldn't be controversial.

 

How does women issues with body issues compare with toxic masculinity? Does women’s body issues affect other as “toxic masculinity” supposedly does? Women’s body issues argument is basically “ women Don’t be so hard on yourself your all beautiful”. Do men body issues get brought up? Type in women’s body issues and men’s body issues on google which has more hits? Then do it on toxic masculinity and toxic femininity which gets more hits?
How can you know how men perceive this ad? Maybe they find it unfair to single out only men’s poor behavior while doing nothing to do the same for women? Thousands of women are emotionally abusive to their significant others everyday yet we hear nothing.

 

Today's episode of TM:


See all those guys with facial hair? How dare they!

 

Acting like a dick is subjective person to person what one might think is dick behavior another might not. Those men and boys probably think that because they don’t have consistent male rolemodels. Moms new boy toy isn’t insterested in instilling life lessons. Only men can teach boys to be men and through decades of emasculation there are few left. Instead of recognizing the problem they double down of the behavior causing this (see this ad)

 

Toxic masculinity is a thing? Is the Loch Ness Monster a thing because you saw it on TV?

It's fabricated, unscientific, feminist, LW Complex hate speech drivel like "the patriarchy" that is just the latest excess in a hypocritical 50 year+ campaign against men towards discriminatory benefit in legal, school and work treatment of women and other identitarian Complex voting blocs. That's what it is.

"JUDEN!" THAT'S what it is.

It's no different than singling out any other large group due to outlier behavior of a small number of members of that group, not one bit different. That's called bigotry not an honest attempt to address social problems. And the irony is that it comes from people who holler "RACISSSSS!" at the most absurd things constantly day in, day out, not just when some offensive ad comes out.

Thankfully, this whole kerfuffle, just like the "Men need to be taught not to rape" horseshit of a few years ago, will end up driving more and more men away from the Complex for life. Though mindless, self-absorbed feminist women do buy the household razors, they don't stand in the voting booth. Wonder how high that male voting skew can go, 65-70%? Stay tuned.

 

Would you go as far to say that "toxic masculinity" is a cultural issue?

 

MGTOW.

 

how often would the term boys will be boys be used to explain away rape versus normal behavior? I’m sure you have the statistics

Behavior and ingenuity go hand in hand in most cases.

 

Toxic masculinity is a social construct.

 

See post #142. If you seriously don't believe there are any ideas about masculine that are destructive or self-destructive, you are deluding yourself.