We have lost our republic

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by RPITA, Jun 16, 2013.

  1. PrometheusBound

    PrometheusBound New Member

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    By state you mean the bribable low-life in the legislature. The rest of the citizens are excluded, as if they were vegetation. The people are not sovereign in their own state; they should shut up and let the politicians alone. Typical Libretardian double-talk.

    Or what you say behind closed doors, just as your oligarchic Constitution was plotted out behind closed doors, "What is best for a state's 1% is best for all its worthless little people too."
     
  2. RPITA

    RPITA New Member Past Donor

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    I don't fully understand what you mean. Can you give me a few examples of the freedoms that we have lost and who took them?
     
  3. Talon

    Talon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Here's a few notable recent examples:

    The freedom lost in unconstitutional expansion of eminent domain in the Kelo v. New London ruling, the freedom lost from unreasonable searches such as the fishing expeditions currently being conducted by the NSA and the freedom lost by the unconstitutional imposition of the ObamaCare individual mandate. The case of the individual mandate was particularly awful because the Obama Administration and Chief Justice Roberts had to resort to arbitrarily ignore and re-write the language in a bill - i.e., engage in tax writing that is reserved exclusively to the House of Representatives - to pass it off as "constitutional". Not only did they trample on the separation of powers in the Constitution to pull off that stunt, they trampled on the rule of written law by ignoring and altering the language in a law ex post facto that repeatedly specified that the exaction contained in the law was a regulatory penalty, not a tax. Had Congress wished to pass the mandate as a tax, it could and would have done so. To a similar extent, the SCOTUS illegally expanded the power of government to seize private property and hand it over to another private entity in the Kelo v. New London ruling, when such seizures are limited to government entities by the Constitution.

    Who took these freedoms? Legislators, judges, presidents, government agents and your fellow citizens.
     
  4. RtWngaFraud

    RtWngaFraud Banned

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    We're Rome 2.0.
    New and improved, and destined to the same fate. It'll all burn more efficiently this time around though.
     
  5. RPITA

    RPITA New Member Past Donor

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    Talon, I'll just reply to your first example if that's OK. I was completely unfamiliar with this supreme court ruling so I did a little research. In the desenting opinion for the court was the following statement:

    "Any property may now be taken for the benefit of another private party, but the fallout from this decision will not be random. The beneficiaries are likely to be those citizens with disproportionate influence and power in the political process, including large corporations and development firms."

    It seems to me this perfectly upholds my position. Namely that we have lost our representative democracy to the "citizens with disproportionate influence and power in the political process, including large corporations and development firms".
     
  6. RPITA

    RPITA New Member Past Donor

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    Well, looks like my first thread here has died out. With one minor and hilarious exception I was very satisfied with the kinds of replies and discussions we had. Thanks
     

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