We may not need a univeral basic income in the future

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  1. Ndividual

    Ndividual Well-Known Member

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    We don't need a universal basic income now.
     
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    Please explain how everything in BOLD above can be solved by government?
     
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    I never said it could. I was just pointing out that it isn't always a child's fault if they're not "successful" at school.
     
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    And I continue to point out that if government cannot solve these problems then it is 100% the responsibility of the kids and their parents/guardians to get with the program. How do you propose we change the behavior of millions of kids and their parents/guardians to obtain higher graduation rates, etc.?
     
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    We need to abolish the root causes of poverty, social discontent and unrest - i.e. social stratification - from the bottom up.
     
  6. tkolter

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    Boarding schools take the children from said parents save for the little ones give them back on weekends to secure schools for their education and do this for older children year round with vacation time K-12. And then States can allow private religious schools however their diplomas wouldn't count as DIPLOMAS with graduation for joining the military or for State funded schools or those getting Federal funding in any way including school loans. And how to pay for this take all the spending now for schools, social services for children and a third the military spending and tax businesses a little due to the benefits of the new string of educated employees they will have access to.

    I would also track children and offer strong vocational tracks leading to jobs in fields of all kinds even those that might demand an associates degree now.

    Religious parents would be free to do other arrangements just if they opt to send a child to a local church run school it will cost them later, but that's there choice.
     
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    What is poverty? If we generalize the definition it is people living or existing at the bottom rungs of society. What are the primary reasons why people live at the bottom rungs of society? Unless you expect most people to be identical in achievement, then logic dictates we will always have people at the top, in the middle and at the bottom. In an economic sense, those at the bottom will always be living sub-standard to others. Please explain how you can change this...
     
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    I agree that boarding schools, if mandatory, will help more kids stay the path of education and avoid some of society's pitfalls like drugs, alcohol, gangs, guns, etc. Maybe when kids are old enough to guess their vocation preferences, they can have a mandatory 2-year work corps working in or close to the field they desire. Once finished with this they can attend college, vocational training, and strike out on their career.

    However, it will never work because Americans won't accept the concept, or fund it...
     
  9. PreteenCommunist

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    Ultimately, by abolishing the market and money, centrally planning production and allocation, achieving overabundance and allowing people to take whatever they want from the relevant distribution centre or whatever you want to call it.
     
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    Maybe in about 500 years but not relevant and/or feasible today...
     

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