We need to remind our "God hates abortion" friends of something...again-

Discussion in 'Abortion' started by Gorn Captain, Aug 18, 2016.

  1. Phyxius

    Phyxius Well-Known Member

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    So, after your first link is shot down as utter, laughable BS, you pull a Trumpian squat and double-down by posting an even more ridiculous link? :roflol:
     
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    sdelsolray Well-Known Member

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    Your god is a little pissant, even for a fictional character.

    Just not in any way you can demonstrate.
     
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    Someone else's god considers Christians a lost cause, and is planning to kill you all. Even your pet hamsters.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    correction - The command includes the killing zygotes, embryo's and fetuses. Obviously some women in the numerous towns where wholesale slaughter was commanded were pregnant. The zygotes, embryo's and fetuses were not spared.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    correction - the "Giants" referred to in Genesis were the offspring of humans and the "sons of God".
     
  6. Phyxius

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    Quite true. How about this one:

    Hosea 13:16 Samaria shall become desolate; for she hath rebelled against her God: they shall fall by the sword: their infants shall be dashed in pieces, and their women with child shall be ripped up.

    Sounds pretty pro abortion/infanticide to me. And what about all of the fetuses/infants killed by Yaweh Himself during the Flood? I'll bet that one day alone caused more fetal deaths than the entire post Roe v Wade era...
    :roll:
     
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    correction - the "Giants" referred to in Genesis were the offspring of humans and the "Sons of God". What was meant by the author of Genesis by the term "Sons of God" was not "fallen angels". It was "Sons of God".

    El/Enlil/Elyon the creator God, God the Father, and so on, was believed to have numerous sons - one of which was YHWH who's allotment was the sons of Jacob (Israel). Deuteronomy 32

    I took this from a modern Bible so the term "Most High" for the name of the God El (Elyon).

    The Israelite monotheism was not "universal monotheism". They believed that many God's existed (a Pantheon) but, that they were to worship only one. The God of the Israelite's YHWH.

    El is also mentioned by name as the head of the Pantheon (Council of El) in Psalm 82.

    http://www.jhsonline.org/Articles/article_144.pdf
    Not that the article above is from the "Journal of Hebrew Scriptures" - not from some questionable source.

    You will also find confirmation of the meaning of "Most High" in Deuteronomy 32:8

    "Though El is commonly identified with YHWH in most of the Bible, there are instances where
    their distinct identities are preserved, most notably in Deut 32:8–9"

    In Psalm 82 again we have the "sons of God" YHWH is cast the accuser who asserts his supremacy over these "sons of the God"
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Then we have God actually ordering ritual abortion for a woman who is suspected by her jealous husband of lying with another man. Numbers 5 11-29

     
  9. FoxHastings

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    Why do people actually BRAG that they believe in the bible when it's so full of hate and gruesome deaths and murder and rape.....oh, wait ! I know, they LIKE that !!!


    Now THAT realization is scary but it does explain why the world is so gruesome and nasty...
     
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    Notice, that Maccabee couldn't actually address the issue of the "loving and merciful" "abortion hating" God.....

    ORDERING the slaughter of children and actual babies?


    He had to resort to "They've found an 800 foot long gopherwood keel on the side of Mount Ararat" "Ancient Aliens" bulls**t claim....

    to try to change the subject to some Creationist Crap discussion?
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The fundamentalists are a confused bunch for sure. It is easy to find support for abortion in the Bible and ridiculous nonsense that there is any defacto condemnation of the practice in the Bible.
     
  12. Maccabee

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    Who are hybrid demons. Your point?

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    Because I couldn't find the site with that skeleton alone. The source is in that link. Care to debunk it?
     
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    And how do you explain strong giants? The disease that make people tall (forgot what it's called) makes there bones brittle and they can die from a small bruise.
     
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    Which in the Old Testament always referred to angels.
     
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    But I do have evidence. It's just that I don't deal with this topic all that often so I don't have it all cued up. But here is some evidence that is more concrete.


    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hdcCiZAlIrI

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    Because it fits the other evidences. This goes into the UFO topic but there is evidence that the "aliens" are actually demonic.

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    Can you prove it wrong?
     
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    In every instance in the Old Testament when it mentions "sons of God" it always mean angels or something that was created straight from the hand of God like Adam.
     
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    God is merciful but he's also just.

    I wasn't trying to change the subject. I have a reason why God ordered the death of everyone in that group and if you read the Bible that's the reason it gives. Now we can discuss whether what it said was true but that's a different topic.
     
  19. Maccabee

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    They weren't innocent. If they were a cross between fallen angel and human then they were evil to the core at birth.

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    They did prove it.
     
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    The Bible does not actually state that these "sons of God" who mated with women were angels (at least nowhere that I have been able to find) so are you basing your assertion on the potentially faulty analysis of other humans?
     
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    You are quite gullible. It's no wonder you buy into such nonsense.

    Yep, total nonsense.
     
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    No YouTube rubbishy please. Published scientific papers only
     
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    I was talking about the OT and gave you Journal articles from sources like "Journal of Hebrew Scriptures" explaining that the term "Sons of God" did not mean angels.

    You can cover eyes, ears, nose, mouth and any other orifice that might let the bad news in and then go running to stick head in sands of denial but, this will not change what the fact that the Israelite's believed in the existence of a pantheon and that when they wrote "Sons of God" - they meant "Sons of God".

    Satan in fact was one of these Son's ! Baal another as was YHWH !
     

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