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We should try to pass gun control on the ballot.

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Sackeshi, Nov 3, 2019.

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  1. Sackeshi

    Sackeshi Well-Known Member

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    No it does not, since the founders were so lovely to specify 4 different situations. Being in a car or on the street does not have 4 amendment protections
    Because no one has been radical enough to try it.
     
    Sackeshi, Nov 4, 2019
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    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    How does me owning a gun violate anyone else's right to life? Not owning a gun might violate my right to life.
     
    kriman, Nov 4, 2019
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    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    To stupid to even comment on.
     
    kriman, Nov 4, 2019
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    Heartburn Well-Known Member

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    OMG, is it 1984 again?
     
    Heartburn, Nov 4, 2019
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    Sackeshi Well-Known Member

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    Because when guns are freely available (or shipped in) you get El Salvador a literal cartel state, where you have a murder rate of 68 per 100,000 and a police killing civilians rate of over 9 per 100,000. Your literal guntopia.
     
    Sackeshi, Nov 4, 2019
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    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The supreme court disagrees with that interpretation.
     
    kriman, Nov 4, 2019
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    There are already more guns in the US than in El Salvador and yet...….
     
    Heartburn, Nov 4, 2019
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    We have a gun control law; it's called the second amendment.
     
    bricklayer, Nov 4, 2019
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    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Again. How does me having a gun change anything. I have owned a gun since I was thirteen. Twenty years in the military. I understand weapons. I am not your average citizen so you statistics do not apply to me.
     
    kriman, Nov 4, 2019
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    Sackeshi Well-Known Member

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    They have ~6 million people
     
    Sackeshi, Nov 4, 2019
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    So my plain, undeniable, constitutional right to keep and bear arms gets eclipsed by how the Sheriff happens to feel at the moment. What if the Sheriff is feeling poorly, jealous, envious, mean, vengeful, stingy, sick, giddy, dizzy, numb, generous, spiteful, silly, frivolous, tyrannical, corrupt, or impatient? And what if I forget to slip him a bribe or to curtsy? No gun for me!
     
    Injeun, Nov 4, 2019
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    Sackeshi Well-Known Member

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    They will decide based on how the voters feel no guns in Antigun counties. I mean if you wa t to waste money bribing lol
     
    Sackeshi, Nov 4, 2019
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    Hunting/fishing requires game/resource management, which requires funding. Hence the licensing.
     
    Injeun, Nov 4, 2019
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    If you honestly feel that way then I'd suggest you write to your congressman and make your suggestion to him.
     
    gamewell45, Nov 4, 2019
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    Sackeshi Well-Known Member

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    I don't know why they don't actually require some form of intellectual test for the right to vote. Like getting a 100 or higher on the IQ test
     
    Sackeshi, Nov 4, 2019
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    I'd have no problem with that so long as those who are disqualified are not required to pay any taxes since it would unfair as they would not have a say/vote.
     
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    Sackeshi Well-Known Member

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    It would not be unfair. They were all given the opportunity but we're not smart enough to pass.
     
    Sackeshi, Nov 4, 2019
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    I don't want to get too far off topic but it would be taxation without representation. It's not their fault if they were born with a low IQ.
     
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    Fortunately, your changes would require affirmative votes of 3/4 of the state legislatures.
     
    RodB, Nov 4, 2019
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    Sackeshi Well-Known Member

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    I'm talking about individual state Constitutions. Maryland Constitution, NY/NJ/CA/OR/WA/CT/MA/MN/CO/NM Constitutions
     
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    Great idea. It's a perfect ploy by Republicans to hoodwink Democrats into adopting this rotted plant in their platform.:roll:
     
    opion8d, Nov 4, 2019
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    RodB Well-Known Member Donor

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    My comment still stands. You cannot change the US Constitution by changing state constitutions.
     
    RodB, Nov 4, 2019
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    Sackeshi Well-Known Member

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    We don't need to. The federal courts are uneasy about striking down gun laws
     
    Sackeshi, Nov 4, 2019
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    Why in the world would you want the Government to have that kind of control over you. You may as well torch the bill of rights.
     
    altmiddle, Nov 4, 2019
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    Sackeshi Well-Known Member

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    So that crime will reduce no reason to hide if you are not breaking the law.
     
    Sackeshi, Nov 4, 2019
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