We Support Joe Biden!

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  1. dagosa

    dagosa Well-Known Member

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    You provided a copy of a tweet from Fix news; anyone can google hogwash and get verification for anything they want when they accept tweets, Facebook, op Ed’s, rags from the check out counter and Fox.

    , Fox retweets trump lies and BS on Twitter all the time. Often, they just make s.h.i.t up.
     
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  2. TheImmortal

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    Well the study I was referring to was done in 2012 so I’d rather not hear you just cry about that.

    But here’s a more recent one in regards to trump:

    https://shorensteincenter.org/news-...il&utm_term=0_10959edeb5-ab6d830a9d-189799085
     
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  4. Smartmouthwoman

    Smartmouthwoman Bless your heart Past Donor

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    So true... and where Joe Biden has wheeled & dealed (with our money) for the last 40 years.

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    The truth is undeniable.
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So you are one of those that thinks any govt can stop a virus. Amazing.
     
  8. dagosa

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    A lot more then, Trumps best guesses about corona like * maybe we can find a way of injecting disinfectants and sticking a uv light up everyone’s asteroid*
    Hysterical. It tells you all you need to know about this imbecile.
     
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  9. dagosa

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    Not with Trump, that’s for sure. Obama was a lot more on the ball vs Ebola.
    But then, Obama had a real scientist head HHS in charge of pandemics and not a dog breeder. Nice choice Trump; just in case we)re over run by rabid canines in heat. ..
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    LOL, Ebola wasn’t as infectious as even the flu. You are grasping for straws.
     
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    dagosa Well-Known Member

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    It wasn’t as infectious because, you didn’t catch it. Obama believes in science, Trump doesn’t. He believes in Putinism . He’s the only world leader that thinks AGW is a hoax. That must give you a warm fuzzy feeling knowing he can chose the right people to deal with pandemics.
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    LOL, sure thing. Not much up on viruses are you.
     
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    A lot more then you....
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    LOL, says you. Not much of an expert are you.
     
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    I believe in science. And you ?
    You have no cred if you don’t
     
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  16. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Sure you do, the science of the demedia.
     
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    Vernan89188 Well-Known Member

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    That's your credibility?
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No, yours. TDS trumps science.
     
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    Vernan89188 Well-Known Member

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    ...I'm not a trump supporter, I don't have TDS.
    TDS refers to people who will follow or listen to anything Trump tells them. So much so that he could metaphorically shoot someone on fifth avenue, and he still would not lose their support.
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    LOL, not even aware what TDS stands for. Not surprised.
     
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    Vernan89188 Well-Known Member

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    I just told you what it stands for. LOL, I made up the abbreviation when I saw that clip.
    If anything it means what ever you want.
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Typical. Ignore facts for feelings.
     
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    Biden has four disadvantages in this race.

    1. He's a union liberal and is in the process of going further left in an effort to woo Bernie supporters. If he doesn't pick a black woman V.P. he will be taken out to the whipping post by Stacy Abrams. If he does pick a black female like Kamala Harris he can write off the south and most of Bernie's supporters. Tara Reade seems to have a very good case that this guys a sexual predator. You never know if Biden is his own person or has plagiarized his agenda from someone else. The mans a thief. Biden claimed he finished near the top of his graduating law school class. 76th place out of 85 puts you in the very lowest bottom 11% of your class.

    2. Trump is not hated by the majority of Americans. He may be hated and despised by some in the Democrat party and some never Trumpers. Biden has his enemies and I believe it will show up at the Democrat Convention. I will be extremely surprised if he gets the nomination. He was chosen to be the sacrificial lamb.

    3. The country was on the road to prosperity until Corona Virus 19. Until they find a vaccine for it I don't believe any prosperity of any significance can be accomplished. At least with Trump we had the lowest unemployment rate among, woman, Hispanics, blacks, teens and total unemployment. Joes solution is to ban "Right to Work Laws". Attractive to Unions but not most people. Joe did nothing except enrich his kids with trade policies. Trump started putting the pressure on other countries to pay and play fairly or suffer economic war.

    4. Not all want a single payer, universal health care system. It is not free by any stretch of the imagination. Many like the health care they have now, their own plans and doctors. I hear a lot of you talk about health care but who pays and what would it look like and entail? Who would administer it? There are health care plans out there now that cost you very little as long as you don't use them and have caps if you need long term treatment. They also cover pre-existing conditions. What I really hear is many of you want health care but you want it for free.
     
  24. Arkanis

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    No.

    The black vote is widely held by Biden.

    Yes, he is.

    In three and a half years, he's never gotten more than 50% of the electorate to approve him, for very short periods of time.

    His average is 43%.

    It's impossible for Trump to win with a majority of voters. As of 2016, he's going out with three million fewer votes than the Democrats.

    This deficit has been growing for three years and since the pandemic, considering the unemployment rate and his catastrophic management of the crisis, it will become impossible to make up for him.


    It's an illusion.

    Since 2017, the GDP growth rate has been 2.3% per year.

    Obama has had virtually the same results.

    While growth was weak, Trump has increased the debt from 95% of GDP to 107%. Just before the pandemic, the U.S. Treasury was in a serious structural deficit, i.e. it had to borrow to pay for the government's current expenditures.

    In any case, these figures no longer mean anything, since now the unemployment rate is over 20% and the US debt will take at least 15 years to repay.

    Again, this is bs.

    The first to pay for the trade wars unleashed by Trump were American consumers.

    We saw an economic downturn as soon as Trump imposed tariffs on Canada, Mexico and China. Those tariffs were passed on to the Americans through higher prices. It was so bad for farmers that Trump had to give them $28 billion to survive....

    Trump's trade wars slowed GDP growth by at least 1%.

    57% want a mixed system. That's what Biden is proposing.

    Trump's not offering anything, when this is the most important issue for the electorate.
     
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  25. Vernan89188

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    Why don't YOU want a singlepayer like system? None of the reasons you stated would be a consequence if we crafted such a system. The same chief of medicine that administers stuff now at any given hospital, none of that would change..its not the VA. One such example just opening medicaid for everyone to automatically be apart of if they dont have insurance...If that happens you can still keep your insurance. Unless your insurance just doesent want you, like your doctors apparently didnt. And currently not having a single payer type of system is causing far more serious health issues that cost the tax payers even more, especially with mental health patiants, and hospital stays from people with no insurance.

    We know it wont be free, the system even has the word payer. Some systems work best when the service is free for the end user. Prosecution attorneys come to mind, police, firefighting..etc. Doesn't mean you cant have private security, and building staff, hire a private detective, or hire your own lawyer.

    I dont think you guys even know how insurance companies make money If you think they are better then the power of us to bargain collectively for pharmaceuticals, and get hospitals to state prices upfront.
     
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